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1.5 hour commute 3 days a week (London to Cambridge)

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Yesolafff · 09/04/2021 13:40

Is this doable? (The other 2 days will be WFH).
Commuting from London to Cambridge. Salary 40k.

Thanks in advance

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folloyourarro · 09/04/2021 21:51

I find my rail card works for national peak tickets (I have a HM Forces one if that makes a difference), but not season tickets or peak TfL (back in the days you loaded a railcard on an oyster, not sure if you can still do that, do oysters still exist?!)

Wigeon · 09/04/2021 22:01

Assuming you’ve got a Network Railcard, it’s not valid before 10am (apart from on a very small number of services on some routes just before 10am). See info here

7.40am is very much peak! In fact I’d say it’s peak peak! Looks like morning peak on the Cambridge line is anything which arrives at Liverpool St before 10am, and evening peak is 4.29pm to 6.34pm. See here

titchy · 09/04/2021 22:02

@Yesolafff

Oh for some reason the prices were showing as discounted when I put in my railcard- do bear in mind my train would be at around 7.40am- is this still peak?
7.40 is peak peak!
youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/04/2021 22:05

@Yesolafff

Oh for some reason the prices were showing as discounted when I put in my railcard- do bear in mind my train would be at around 7.40am- is this still peak?
That's a very peaky peak I think, I'm afraid!
WannabeMathematician · 09/04/2021 22:06

Depends, are you close to the station at Cambridge? If you’re going to Cambridge north everything is surprisingly far away from that station which might be frustrating.

I did a similar commute length for 2 years and tbh I couldn’t hack it. Though that was on the bus.

Wigeon · 09/04/2021 22:15

@Yesolafff

Oh for some reason the prices were showing as discounted when I put in my railcard- do bear in mind my train would be at around 7.40am- is this still peak?
Hm, I just looked at the prices for a return journey on Monday, going out on the 7.39 and returning on the 17.29 - without Network Railcard £45.60 (says anytime return cheapest), with railcard £43.95 (says two anytime singles are cheapest). So not a huge difference, but not nothing. Doesn’t seem to make sense with what the Network Railcard website says about it not being valid before 10am! You might need to talk to a real person at a station to get them to explain...
1.5 hour commute 3 days a week (London to Cambridge)
Yesolafff · 09/04/2021 23:00

I put in my young person's railcard and the fares were showing as discounted to between £22-26 return

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CovidCorvid · 09/04/2021 23:30

I did a similar journey for 8 months and couldn’t hack it. I had a 2 min walk to station, 1hr 15min train ride and a ten min cycle. 4 days a week.

Don’t underestimate the amount of time hanging around stations waiting for trains. Not been able to get a seat on the way home every time so unable to work. Just arsing about on Mumsnet for the journey,etc.

CovidCorvid · 09/04/2021 23:32

A 16-25 Railcard can be used at any time for Peak and Off-Peak travel. For journeys made between 04:30 and 10:00 Monday to Friday, a minimum fare of £12 is payable. There is no minimum fare when you travel at weekends, on Public Holidays, or during July and August. To see the full list of tickets a 16-25 Railcard discount is valid for, visit our Railcards terms of use guide.

PPPPPP · 09/04/2021 23:42

Definitely doable, I've been doing it for the last 2 years getting off at St Pancras. I have a 26-30 railcard which gets me a 1/3 off during peak times and it works out a lot cheaper than a season ticket.

VanGoghsDog · 10/04/2021 00:26

@Yesolafff

I put in my young person's railcard and the fares were showing as discounted to between £22-26 return
I would go to the station and ask in person. The railcards are really confusing.
idontlikealdi · 10/04/2021 09:01

It's nit an unusual commute then - I'm edge of zone 5 and walking to the station, wait for train, walk at the other end it's about 1hr 20 on a good day when Southeastern aren't fucked which is rarely. It's something I don't miss at all about CV.

AdriannaP · 10/04/2021 09:02

Yes doable. Did it for years. As others said use the train times well - read, check emails, listen to podcasts.

nickymanchester · 10/04/2021 09:48

@Yesolafff

Oh for some reason the prices were showing as discounted when I put in my railcard- do bear in mind my train would be at around 7.40am- is this still peak?
Most people here are thinking about travelling INTO London at that time - not travelling OUT of London.

If you have either a 16-25 or a 26-30 travel card then you can certainly travel with it on a Standard Anytime Day Return ticket at that time of the morning.

Wigeon · 10/04/2021 09:51

Woah, looks like both the 16-25 and 26-30yr old railcards are valid at weekday peak, and it’s £30.05 return if you go out on the 7.39am, back on the 5.42pm. What did you put in to get £22-26? It’s still a lot better than the full price £45 return!

Wigeon · 10/04/2021 09:53

Ah yes, just seen the OP says she’s commuting London to Cambridge - assume you mean you live in London and will be working in Cambridge? So fares are probably cheaper going that direction, given it’s the less popular direction.

FlattestWhite · 10/04/2021 10:01

Young person's railcard valid more than the Network card, so you can use it until you are too old for that - but be prepared that Network railcard can't be used til 10, even though off-peak starts after 9 ish (depending on direction etc).

Fast trains to/from Kings Cross are about 45 min but generally more expensive during peak times. Slower trains to/from Liverpool St have various pricing options with singles, advanced, super-advanced and all that, even during the peak times, so if you book early you can get some better deals but it takes ages.

I think there are (or are plans) to have some sort of Carnet tickets where you can use them a certain number of times within a time period, rather than a general season ticket.

Not all the trains go through to Cambridge North, so it depends where you are working, if the central station is close enough or if you want the North one (Kings Cross trains tend to go on to there). Soon to be a South station too if you work at biomedical campus, which will take time off the journey from London and possibly from the Cambridge end as well. If you can cycle from the Cambridge end to work, you will likely save time over a bus, unless you work within walking distance.

RoyalMush · 10/04/2021 10:01

That’s interesting 78 hopefully Covid will increase the pressure on rail companies to recognise part time workers by offering tailored season tickets. It a disproportionate burden on part time workers (mostly women obvs) not to be able to access regular discounted travel.

Seeline · 10/04/2021 10:04

I don't think the commute is unreasonable. In normal times my DH works in central London.We live in an outer London borough. On a good day, his commute is an hour door to door. With Southern there aren't many good days......

FlattestWhite · 10/04/2021 10:06

You might also be lucky in the direction you are going, as most of the restrictions are about what time you arriving into London in the morning, or leave London in the evening, rather than vice versa. You can get a day ticket, for example, that doesn't let you leave London between 4pm-7pm, but you can use it to leave Cambridge at that time! I don't know in detail about all the restrictions, though, but it's definitely a preferable direction to travel - more likely to get a seat, as well.

TrefoilTrefoil · 10/04/2021 10:20

It would be good news if we do start seeing fare structures aimed at regular, but not five-day-a-week, travellers. Not just commuters. I used to have a season ticket for the tram when I commuted to my local city, and this meant I regularly used it to go in and do things at the weekend or in the evening too. After changing jobs and having to buy one-off tickets each time, I stopped and either drove in with my partner or didn’t bother at all. Some sort of scheme where you could buy five tickets for the price of four would be good or fifth ticket free would really encourage people to use public transport. Perhaps fewer commuters could be offset by more leisure travel at weekends.

bathmatty · 10/04/2021 10:26

I know people in London who travel onto London with similar commutes. My 25 min journey on paper tends to take 40 mins.

VanGoghsDog · 10/04/2021 10:38

@TrefoilTrefoil

It would be good news if we do start seeing fare structures aimed at regular, but not five-day-a-week, travellers. Not just commuters. I used to have a season ticket for the tram when I commuted to my local city, and this meant I regularly used it to go in and do things at the weekend or in the evening too. After changing jobs and having to buy one-off tickets each time, I stopped and either drove in with my partner or didn’t bother at all. Some sort of scheme where you could buy five tickets for the price of four would be good or fifth ticket free would really encourage people to use public transport. Perhaps fewer commuters could be offset by more leisure travel at weekends.
Yes, the carnet ticket system exists on some lines for this. It's about 10% off I think, depending on the journey. Not all operators offer it and those that do hide it away for some reason.

The govt has a current consultation with train operating companies on the issue.

Yesolafff · 10/04/2021 11:10

@Wigeon

Ah yes, just seen the OP says she’s commuting London to Cambridge - assume you mean you live in London and will be working in Cambridge? So fares are probably cheaper going that direction, given it’s the less popular direction.
Yes living in London and commuting to Cambridge 3 days a week! I think it'll be a 5 min walk to tube, 20 mins on tube, 1 hour train, 15 min walk
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Yesolafff · 10/04/2021 11:13

Commuting costs are totalling over £3k. Based on my salary of around £40k, is this reasonable?

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