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Dilema- at grievance tommorrow

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curlysmum · 23/10/2007 14:15

Have not got much time to type as I am at work but I am faced with a big dilema , I just wanted a general view of opinions . I waited a year for my employer to get me some one to work with me due to huge workload , they employed a temporary person who I do not get along with due to a no. of issues , e.g. find them sexist and a bit unprofessional , therre has been some conflict between us , now I know they are also a fraud e.g. they are not even who they say they (have two identities) are and are committing benefit fraud. I have filed a grievance about the other issues with this person , but would you raise this issue at a formal grievance or leave this out , I feel it is unreasonable to expect me to work with someone who I distrust this much but I just do not know what to say and whether to raise this as well , it really is making me ill worrying about this, any advice welcome

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NAB3 · 23/10/2007 14:26

If you suspect someone of fraud of course you have to mention it to your bosses.

curlysmum · 23/10/2007 14:36

they are not an employee of the company they are employed through an agency so I am not sure it is revelant and will it just make me look like a busy body, which is what I fear as I have been off with stress due to the work load thing and now I was off because of my relationship is so poor with this person and I fear I look like the mad one

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ScaremyVile · 23/10/2007 14:41

I would think it probably is something that needs to be mentioned, if not the facts then at least say you have reason to be suspicious.
Another thing is, how do you know about the fraud? If you have delved further into this persons personal details than would be required as part of the job then that may not reflect well on you.

curlysmum · 23/10/2007 14:48

it was entirely by chance as someone who knows the other person well is a good friend of my dd father and the other person told them , they knew them since childhood so knew straight away they were not who I knew them to be iyswim , but I also had my general suspicions about their character for myself quite early on, I just can't decide if this will look bad on me , then I think why should it I am honest , work hard, pay my mortgage etc and then you get people like this who take advantage.

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Meowmix · 23/10/2007 14:49

stick to what matters to work and your boss.

If the fraud is affecting work (ie productivity, putting the company at risk of prosecution, they're pilfering etc) then you mention it. If you can justify how you know. If you have this through hearsay then keep quiet, it'll look like mudslinging.

In these situations the boss is looking for business reasons not emotional - so he is sexist and this causes me stress which effects productivity rather than he gives me the creeps. Try to stay unemotional and be rational.

good luck

curlysmum · 23/10/2007 14:55

Thanks that is helpful , I am still very emotional about it , but I think I am still very stressed tbh, my fear is that they will not take the other issues seriously and I will be stuck working alongside someone who I can't trust or respect at all , I guess then I will have to look for another job which is hard around childcare etc, it just seems so unfair

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flowerybeanbag · 23/10/2007 15:08

You have raised a grievance against this person and it is being heard tomorrow? Presumably you specified in the original grievance what the issues were?
This person should have seen the grievance to give him/her a chance to respond, so I wouldn't raise something entirely unexpected at the hearing tomorrow if I were you, unless it is additional information that is directly relevant to the issues you have mentioned.

However this is something your employer should know as a separate issue. The identity thing anyway - I can't see that the benefit fraud has anything to do with your employer - there's a confidential phone line for reporting benefit fraud I think. It's not really a grievance type issue anyway - it doesn't directly affect you (I imagine) so shouldn't be involved in your personal grievance - it's something your employer should be aware of and deal with appropriately.

I would ask for a confidential meeting with your manager and say you have been made aware that this person may not be who they say they are, and you felt it was important that they are aware so that they are able to investigate and deal with the situation but you didn't feel it was appropriate to raise it at the grievance.

toothicky · 23/10/2007 15:24

If this person works for an agency surely you can terminate their contract with immediate effect.

BetsyBoop · 23/10/2007 20:25

if you know they are committing benefit fraud report them

It's OUR taxes they are stealing

I would have a quiet word with your employer after the grievance meeting about the identity issue, it's not relevant for the grievance meeting.

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