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Time to accept that I will never work again...?

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Unemployablemuch · 19/12/2020 06:53

This is going to be long so please bear with me.

I have name changed as this is completely outing. Was thinking of posting in AIBU but imagined I will be told that “there are no excuses/you’re obviously doing something wrong,” etc. And maybe I am.

I will preface this by saying that I am registered blind.

In the past I have worked, however I gave up work to be a SAHM, and after my DC were old enough I found looking for work almost impossible. I am limited to the kinds of jobs I can apply for because Many just aren’t accessible. I can’t, for instance, go and work on a supermarket checkout or I would be by now.

So I started looking for work again and then I fell seriously ill, so was unable to even contemplate the idea for four years. But eighteen months ago I had an improvement in my health, and so was able to start looking for a job again.

i have applied everywhere. In fact I had an interview booked with a company who, when they discovered I was blind, withdrew the interview offer because of the fear that the system might be inaccessible if they gave me a job, and if that happened it would be unfair on a sighted candidate who would have missed out. Yes, I know they’re breaking the law but there really is nothing that can be done about these companies.

In October last year I was offered a job and thought that I’d struck lucky. However, once again I went to look at their system and it was found to be completely inaccessible. There are often ways to get round this through scripting of accessibility software etc, but it happened that on this occasion nothing could be done, and after deciding that there wasn’t a single other job in the organisation I could do the offer was withdrawn in April. I will point out at this stage that it was a full job offer, with a contract to sign, pre-employment screening which I passed etc. Access to work had been suggested as a possibility to look further into accessibility, but in order to apply for access to work you need a start date, and the employer was unprepared to give one even though it could obviously have been changed/removed.

Then the pandemic hit but I kept applying for jobs, some I never heard back from, some I had rejections, but this is just par for the course when you’re applying for work.

So I finally bit the bullet and applied for universal credit on the basis I would be assigned a job coach. I’ll admit I didn’t have much faith in the system after hearing accounts of blind people being told to apply for such roles as amazon delivery drivers 😂 but hey ho, we do what we must.

The job coach took some details, I have to commit to spending 35 hours a week looking for work, etc. She also referred me to Reed Employment as they are the service they use.

However I have this morning received an email from Reed saying that due to high demand they’re no longer taking referrals and so sorry to disappoint but good luck in the future.

Disability employment advisers no longer exist so that is not an option.

The VI charities such as the RNIB have no employment support in place, in fact my experience of the RNIB has been that I A, signed up for a back to work programme about four years ago which was cancelled on the day, they did however ask if we would sit on an interview panel which would look good on a CV. However they didn’t say what the interviews were,and when we arrived it transpired that they had brought together a group of blind people to interview existing employees to pick the ones who should be made redundant. All of these candidates were also visually impaired. So they were using the visually impaired community to put other visually impaired people out of jobs. Fuming doesn’t even cover it and if I’d known beforehand I would never have agreed to it.

Subsequent to that they also ran a focus group on getting back into employment, saying that they were going to liaise with companies on employing people with a visual impairment. Given that they themselves only have a 5% visually impaired work force the question was asked as to how they could possibly show any credibility to other companies. The programme was then withdrawn.

So, I feel I have in fact exhausted all avenues here. I’m not entitled to any money from UC due to owning a house, this was purely job specific, and given the amount of stress it has created I’m thinking that I should just withdraw the claim.

But I’m still unemployed, I receive spousal and child maintenance from my eXH but that will cease in a couple of years. I receive PIP which isn’t means tested.

So I am going to be in a position soon where I have very limited income, and even if I can sell the house and move elsewhere I still won’t have an income.

ESA (employment support allowance) was scrapped a year ago and it’s all now UC.

I literally don’t know if there’s any answer beyond this.

Clearly this is why 85% of the visually impaired population is unemployed but I really, really don’t want to be one of them, and yet it looks like I have no choice.

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DianaT1969 · 19/12/2020 09:20

OP, why don't you join People per Hour and Upwork this week?
Create a profile and offer services based on functions you could currently complete without having to buy any additional software. Without the client having to change their way of working. Look at what other freelancers are offering for inspiration. I found my accountant on PPH and he's excellent. Ignore the prices offered by overseas freelancers - many UK businesses are happy to pay the going UK rate, rather than dealing with someone in India etc.
One tip - people only buy from freelancers who have good ratings, so your first offers need to be short and cheap. For example, "I'll type 20 mins of audio for £5". Obviously a massive loss leader, but you get a few 5 star ratings for that and a couple for "I'll redesign your quote template in Word to pull from spreadsheets for £5". Once you have some reviews and gold stars you delete the cheap offers and quote for work as it comes in. You'll find some companies give you one-off work, but many continue with regular work. This time next year, you could be doing regular work for twenty companies and you're your own boss, deciding hours and accepting work that fits your lifestyle.

MLMbotsgoaway · 19/12/2020 09:20

Appreciate you may not want to say, but what type of work did you do before?

Unemployablemuch · 19/12/2020 09:26

@ DianaT1969 I have experience in audio transcription as per one of my previous roles.

I could also e.g. offer podcast editing although I don’t know how much of a market there is for that....

I believe I am a fairly articulate writer but am not sure where I could use that?

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Unemployablemuch · 19/12/2020 09:27

@ MLMbotsgoaway I was a secretary/audio typist, then a customer adviser (call centre) and then a finance administrator/manager (was promoted within the role). The less said about my stint cold calling for a double glazing company the better.... Grin

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WinstonmissesXmas · 19/12/2020 09:32

Can you work at a university? Professional services roles? IMO they tend to be at the forefront of accessible working etc.

MLMbotsgoaway · 19/12/2020 09:33

Podcast editing is huge actually - get on People Per Hour and also Facebook freelancing groups. I’ll PM you a couple of links.

Requinblanc · 19/12/2020 09:33

Equity/the fact you own a house has nothing to do with UC. The only thing that can disqualify you from receiving benefits is the amount of actual savings you have in your bank account. Get your UC sorted for a start as you should not be left without income.

Jollof · 19/12/2020 09:33

I have with mortgage on a house with lots of equity. I get UC. I just don't get the housing element. The equity in my home didn't form part of my claim. I have a couple of friends in the same position. The equity value is only a potential issue if it's in a second property, not your home.

I got advice from CAB before claiming UC. I'm glad I did because my claim was declined initially (and they don't say why, you have to ask). But because I knew I was definitely entitled, I queried it. I wouldn't have questioned it otherwise. The reason was utterly unrelated to my home ownership and was a result of combined human and system errors. They immediately processed a new claim and it's all been fine since.

Just thought I'd share that experience as there is a lot of misinformation about UC out there.

I can't help with working again as you've probably tried everything I'd think of. My suggestions were going to be freelance work from home, things like transcription services. But I don't want to patronise.

tribpot · 19/12/2020 09:38

Have you considered training as a software accessibility tester? I am appalled at the experiences you've had in trying to find work, when employers are required to do far more than they clearly are doing.

I wonder if it's worth contacting a few accessibility testing firms to see if they are hiring - let's face it, these people literally cannot say 'sorry, we can't accommodate your visual impairment' after all.

I've recently had some testing done by this company Zoonou but there are many others. They might be able to advise on what training you would need to do.

AdventureIsWaiting · 19/12/2020 09:44

They currently have a recruitment freeze (due to a reorg) but Network Rail is a relatively decent employer with lots of benefits. There's a large variety of opportunities, pay is fairly good and after 5 years you get the one-off chance to join a final salary pension scheme. They're also extremely family friendly. Although a government department they only advertise on their own site so worth keeping an eye out.

EvelynBeatrice · 19/12/2020 09:48

This is a very long shot and may sound silly but .... the intelligence services were reported recently to be looking to increase their diversity in recruitment. I’m aware that many visually impaired people have excellent hearing skills and I believe that unlike James Bond films a large part of intelligence work involves listening carefully to phone calls etc for hours on end - might be worth a think, especially if you have any foreign language skills.

Unemployablemuch · 19/12/2020 09:53

Thanks all.

I have joined upwork and a part of their website appears to be not very accessible, but I shall persevere.... To users above, I have done accessibility testing actually, for a contact on social media a few years ago and also for a friend more recently.

Where are these UC jobs? I have a search on admin roles in the civil service but I haven’t seen any of those types of roles? Can anyone point me in their direction.

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drspouse · 19/12/2020 10:01

DH is civil service, you generally apply to a training scheme rather than for a specific job.

MLMbotsgoaway · 19/12/2020 10:04

Try people per hour instead of up work - ime it’s much better.

RedRosie · 19/12/2020 10:06

Have you considered higher education? I work in a university, and our head of disability services is visually impaired.

You may not want to work in a disability service of course. There is also huge demand for student support workers.

But generally, HE can be a supportive environment for people with disabilities and there are likely to be other roles you might be interested in. As so much teaching has gone online, there is also demand for people with technical skills to help deliver this (often called learning technologists). Is that something you could explore, maybe train for?

RedRosie · 19/12/2020 10:08

Sorry - maybe look at jobs.ac.uk for an idea of what kind of roles might be available.

DianaT1969 · 19/12/2020 10:08

OP, Upwork is an older platform and a quite US-centric. Although worth having a profile on both, I would concentrate your efforts on PPH. Very busy with UK companies buying freelancer services. There is also some insulting dross on there "Write 20 pages of unique content for our science blog for £10" 😂. You get used to filtering them out and recognising the scammers who post files they want you to download - but no real job.
The platform sends emails for any jobs you could do (based on the keywords you use in tags in your profile).
Spend plenty of time looking around before jumping in.

Mischance · 19/12/2020 10:13

Have you tried the Shaw Trust? - I worked for them many years ago. They find and support employment for people with disabilities. www.shawtrust.org.uk/

I was working with several people who were registered blind, as well as others with a range of disabilities.

BiscuitDrama · 19/12/2020 10:13

@Unemployablemuch

@ DianaT1969 I have experience in audio transcription as per one of my previous roles.

I could also e.g. offer podcast editing although I don’t know how much of a market there is for that....

I believe I am a fairly articulate writer but am not sure where I could use that?

On the writing front, we’ve employed people in the past to write articles as web content. Don’t need anyone right now I’m afraid, but that might help you think about where to look.
TeachesOfPeaches · 19/12/2020 10:16

Fiverr is another freelance website OP

Moondust001 · 19/12/2020 10:27

[quote ivfbeenbusy]@Moondust001

Unfortunately that's a total misconception - if you have a mortgaged house you aren't entitled to any UC for the housing element. If you rent though you get loads of help.....

I know this because when facing redundancy and as the main earner by 3x DH I did all the calculators and all said the same thing.

The thinking being that benefits shouldn't be used to pay your mortgage (and build up equity) - although it doesn't mind doing that for someone else (ie the landlord if it's rented) 🤷‍♀️[/quote]
I am aware of that. But that isn't what the OP said. She said that she isn't eligible for UC due to owing a house. She didn't say it was mortgaged, but even if it is, she is only not eligible for housing elements. She later said that the reason she wasn't eligible was actually due to the equity in the house. I have no knowledge of any such barrier - many people with equity in their home claim UC. So unless there is some weird condition on the home ownership, it still makes no sense. And even if you own a home, you can claim for other elements unless your income and savings are too high.

Hayeahnobut · 19/12/2020 10:29

I can't offer any careers advice, only to say that as a disabled person I share your frustration. Many employers that claim to be disability friendly are anything but. I'd include the civil service in that, the number of discrimination claims against them is shockingly high.

On the UC issue, equity is your home is not counted as capital, however spousal maintenance is counted as income (but not child maintenance). Could that be the issue? Also ESA is still available if you have paid sufficient NI Contributions in recent years, it's known as 'New Style ESA'.

Fairystory · 19/12/2020 10:29

The NHS is often good about recruiting people with a disability. I worked in the NHS in south London with people with visual impairment and they did get support.

Love51 · 19/12/2020 10:39

Public sector or really large companies are the way to go. I know HSBC are a really progressive employer in many ways. Local government and civil service both give the potential to rise once you get through the door, so consider applying for a bottom ring job there, and working your way up. You have to be able to follow processes for the civil service. You mention another health condition, neither LG or CS will give you grief if you need time off for appointments, you get a generous disability leave allowance each year in my local government.

needsahouseboy · 19/12/2020 11:58

Owning a house doesn’t stop you claiming UC. Not sure where you got that information from