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How to manage a team who want to be micro-managed?

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TurtleBeach · 08/12/2020 09:43

Just that really. I am run ragged at work by a team who seem to be unable to do anything without checking with me. I’ve never liked being micro-managed, personally, and really don’t think I come across as a person who wants to be involved in all the tiny details.

I’ve spoken to team members individually and in groups about being more confident and pro-active. I’ve told them outright that I don’t need to be copied into every single email, that I have confidence in them and their instincts are almost always right anyway – and if they are not, we will look on mistakes as a learning opportunity. I’ve made clear that I will always publicly support decisions that they make. I’ve referred to their job descriptions which make clear that the day-to-day work is carried out autonomously and they are trusted to make decisions in the majority of cases, escalating only the most complex of cases.

I’ve held training sessions, looking at issues which frequently come up in order to categorise these as “complex” or not. I’ve trained and re-trained them on systems and processes. I bring this up at every annual review meeting. I’ve set up buddy schemes within the office to encourage colleagues to work together and work out problems with a colleague before coming to me but nothing sticks.

Whenever I take leave, I always come back to hundreds of emails from team members where they are advising the customer (I use the word loosely, our “customers” are internal colleagues), “I need to run this by Turtle so can’t give you an answer until she is back from leave”. When we were in the office, and I’d appear after several hours of meetings, it would be like meerkat heads all popping up and then vying to get to me first with a list of queries to ask me. Now that we are wfh, I get dozens of emails and teams calls every day. It’s driving me to distraction.

On the odd occasion, I’ve hired a genuine self-starter, they’ve gotten visibly fed up with the culture in the office and have left, so I’m stuck with a core group of staff (4 people) who cannot function without being hand held. They are all bright people and these are not entry-level jobs. I have a 5th person who joined the team 3 months ago and showed signs of being very proactive but she now seems to be getting dragged down by the rest of them and following their lead in copying me and checking with me on everything. Not only is this impacting on my time but it also infuriates me as I couldn’t imagine working like this.

I understand that I am their manager and I do have a responsibility to train and help them. I also have a massive job of my own to do – managing the team is only a percentage of my remit, and I’m constantly getting criticised from my own boss about being too hands-on with the day-to-day work and not having enough time to take on larger projects which fit better with my grade and remit. On any given day, I spend 5-6 hours in meetings so the small amount of time I get back at my desk needs to be used well but I end up working 10-12 hour days as standard because my team are so needy.

I've been managing teams in various jobs for almost 20 years and this is the first time I've come across this. Most people hate being micro-managed. I've been in this job for 3 years now and I feel I've tried everything to get these people working independently. Please help.

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blackcat86 · 08/12/2020 14:14

So with the extra info it looks like there are two issues; one being a lack of staff respect for you/you lacking in the authority or backing to do anything and two being you not perhaps being able to fulfill the more senior aspects of your role and show what your capable of. The good news is this number two is in your hands. Your time management is your own to control so take an hour first thing to do your own work before getting caught up in the issues of others. I'm sure a lot of queries don't need an immediate response and you can crack on with what you want to do. It sounds like you want to adopt a coaching approach but your team aren't receptive to this which may come to point number 1. Your staff team are taking the absolute piss out of you and you so your manager and HR need to back you in dealing with this. You have people failing to do directly requested tasks and you're not backed to do anything about it.

Longtalljosie · 08/12/2020 14:16

I think it’s really significant that some of them knew you when you were more junior in the organisation. It’s a form of passive-aggressiveness that a male manager would rarely get. Are you younger than a lot of them too?

MrsMcTats · 08/12/2020 14:46

Sounds like a nightmare OP. Why do you think your manager/HR are so reticent to enforce performance management? Have you laid it all out, as you have done here about what the issues are? Honestly if you requested a meeting and said the situation has become very serious and here are the issues with the team, I can't see how HR could say no to addressing it. It sounds like you've given the team every opportunity to develop, but they are not moving forward at all and are taking you down with them. I would make it formal with HR. Make it clear to your manager that this can not go on and here's your plan of action that you'd like HR support with. Document everything about what you do, how you've tried to address issues etc. No doubt the team will bite back at you, so have all the info prepared. I can't see how they have a leg to stand on.

NeverRTFT · 08/12/2020 14:52

Have you done anonymous group-wide 360 feedback or other process to understand whether you have an impact on them which is driving their behaviour, and is something you didn't realise is happening in the team dynamic?

blackgerbil · 08/12/2020 15:03

Based on your updates I think one of the reasons HR / senior managers aren't taking it seriously is because you're covering too effectively. If you've given clear instructions that that a project should be finished and it isn't (for no good reason) let it be unfinished and embarrass your boss / the company briefly before you fix it. IME letting down external clients is the quickest way to disciplinary action. At the moment it's too easy for your managers and your direct reports to carry on doing their own thing knowing that you'll fill the gaps. In your position I'd start putting an out of office on your email for significant sections of each day and concentrating on one of the big senior projects you've been assigned. Pull it off really well then demand a promotion there or apply elsewhere. Get the conditions of senior management as well as responsibilities and get rid of your middle management responsibilities towards your team. If you've not fixed them in 3 years you're not going to. I wonder whether if you were less good at keeping a lid on the problems of your team the money would magically be found to get you a deputy?

TurtleBeach · 08/12/2020 16:51

Yes, I've twice done anonymous 360 feedback, plus we have company-wide annual staff satisfaction surveys which are shared with me. Results are consistent. They all score me highly as a manager and say really nice things about me, which is great but also all mention that they wish I was more accessible and responsive when they need help.

Good points about management though - as far as they are concerned, my staff are happy and the work is getting done.

I had a really productive discussion today though with the new hire. She did say that she was running things past me despite feeling confident in her own instincts, only because that seemed to be the office culture and she's not only going to stop doing that herself but also do what she can to change others minds, including ensuring she checks the teams site regularly to point folk in the right direction.

As for age - we're spread between late 20s and late 50s. I'm the second oldest but yes, when I first came into the team, I was younger than all original members.

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calliealbert · 09/12/2020 08:42

If you don't know how to delegate effectively, you might unintentionally end up micromanaging your team

amgine · 13/12/2020 08:47

Culture is totally key, and It sounds like you’ve got someone actively working against you. Do you notice an improvement if specific people are on leave?

thesandwich · 13/12/2020 08:56

Can I suggest reading the excellent “one minute manager” book? And one minute manager meets the monkey?
Will only take an hour. Gives v practical ways of getting staff to do their jobs. Been around a long time- but the concepts are great.

maddy68 · 13/12/2020 08:59

Give first instructions on what you expect by a certain time.

Any questions?

Great. Hand it in by Friday

+If they keep coming back to you with questions or needing support it could be that you weren't clear and they don't understand.

If it's daft things , just be straight and say ..you're a professional , you've got this ....

Fizzgigg · 13/12/2020 09:05

All great advice above and second the One Minute Manager book suggestion as well as possible performance management routes.

Also consider your answers to questions. Don't answer them, reply consistently with questions back - what do you think the best actions would be etc. Keep bouncing it back to them to find the solutions. After time you'll be able to ask them why they felt the need to check with you when they clearly have the answers.

Also try a '3 before me' rule - seek the answer in 3 places - policies and peers for instance - before seeking your help.

Phineyj · 13/12/2020 09:13

You need a new job! You have unfortunately got at least two team members who are actively spending their time working on avoiding work. You cannot really sort out people like that unless they leave. And it doesn't sound like you're in a position to sack anyone.

TheProvincialLady · 13/12/2020 09:24

Time for a job descriptions review.

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