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Call to arms on childcare - We're being swizzed...

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Lil · 24/09/2002 15:12

Does every working mother know they can save up to 10% on their nursery/childcare fees? does every employer know they can also save up to an additional 13% on their NI contributions to said employer.

NO! And I've just found out why..(Please don't switch off at this point!!!)

Have been looking into these childcare voucher schemes and am shocked at the amount that the agencies like Busy Bee and Accord charge. They take 50% of all savings available on childcare as fees - and they are left to get away with it.

I have just set up the scheme where I work ,and once you get past the confusing explanations given by the tax man, and the ridiculous hype and waffle the agencies give, it is surprisingly simple...

All you have to do is get your employer to pay your childcare fees direct to the nursery by BACS or a cheque.

That's it. No vouchers needed. The tax man just looks at your P11d at the end of the year, and sees a benefit item in the form of nursery fees (no different from say, company car benefit). They don't care how the money gets to the childcarer from your employer.

The agencies are making a lot of money by relying on employers apathy and lack of government clarity/promotion on this issue. Its working for me, and I had to tell you at mumsnet. Maybe if your employers realised they would save money and don't have to pay such high charges to these agencies, they would take up this FREE MONEY the government are offering.

I despair at the amount of money I've lost over the last few years, and the amount my friends are wasting.

CALL TO ARMS MUMSNETTERS!!

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GillW · 06/06/2003 13:37

We have to agree each year to a temporary amendment to t's&c's to say we accept part of our salary as vouchers. However it still appears on our payslips as "basic pay" (@full amount) then a deduction for the vouchers, so they carry on paying pension contributions etc as normal on the full amount, and it's the full amount which counts for maternity pay, etc (although actually a change to contract could be a good thing if you were planning another baby, as most contractual rights, apart from pay, continue as if you were still at work during the first 18 weeks of ordinary maternity leave - so if they considered the vouchers not to be pay you might get them in their entireity ....)

Depending upon your family circumstances there may be even more reasons to get the childcare vouchers now, as salary paid as childcare vouchers is ignored for the purposes of calculating child tax credit - I posted a bit about it here a while back.

outofpractice · 06/06/2003 15:08

On this note, have you seen Polly Toynbee's call to arms in today's Guardian? She ends the article by asking who there is out there to represent us mothers and issue the call to arms. Any ideas?

GillW · 06/06/2003 15:13

The article is here: www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,971675,00.html

SoftFroggie · 13/06/2003 10:25

we have an employer-run childcare voucher scheme as salary sacrifice. But I haven't had a new contract or anything - just a letter of temporary agreement. As with others, pension is paid on the full amount, but they advise us to opt out if we get pregant again to avoid reducing our maternity pay. It's a bit of a faff with lots of bits of paper (vouchers) each month, but no-one pays any fees to any agency, so I and employer save the whole of our NICs. Lets face it - THEY SAVE MONEY TOO!! It's not really altruistic.

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