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PhD - Retraining After?

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Clipartist · 19/09/2020 10:24

Looking for some advice here!

I completed a PhD in English Lit about two years ago. I've been working in university admin ever since. Not getting anywhere applying for academic work, and to be honest, my heart isn't really in it. I'm 35, so feeling the pressure to be 'earning'.

Recently been made redundant and now thinking - what next? Looking at the job market, I think the best thing for me to do would be to retrain in some capacity, but I'm scared of being the perpetual student. I also don't feel I can afford at this stage to do another degree in something that won't pay off.

I'd ideally like a career in policy or research, for the public sector/civil service. I worked for a few years as a 'researcher' after my undergrad but in reality I did very little research - mostly low level policy work. I'm considering going back to uni and doing a masters in qualitative research methods (feel my lack of formal training in this regard is hindering me from getting interviews for research related jobs). I'm wondering if this sounds ridiculous and whether anyone else with a degree like that has found it useful for securing work? Are there any particular social policy areas (e.g. public health, medical sociology etc) that are valued by employers?

My other alternative is to go down a totally different route - retrain as a teacher, or even one of the allied health professions such as radiography or audiology. I have some (University level) teaching experience and have worked as a health care assistant in the past.

Generally just feeling a bit panicked about the future and my career - 35 isn't old but not young either and I need to weight up what I'm interested in/ideals with job market prospects...

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PersephonePromotesEquanimity · 19/09/2020 10:46

Forgive me, but is there absolutely nothing in your PhD that can be turned into something useful? (Speaking as someone who has completely failed to monetise their postgrad qualifications ...)

Presumably it had some relevance to 21st century life? And presumably your former supervisors earn a living from work in roughly the same area of research. It's just so dispiriting to leave it all behind.

I would be a little worried that interviewers, seeing a new MA, might feel the 3/4 years of PhD research was wasted time ...

Sorry. No help whatsoever!

cupofdecaf · 19/09/2020 11:04

Civil service. Even if you're a bit over qualified once you're in you're eligible for more jobs than external candidates. You're eligible for even more within the same department.

I've worked my way up and a lot of people do join over qualified. If you're prepared to move around it can work.

There's also the fast track if that's open at the moment.

Clipartist · 19/09/2020 12:03

Thanks both. I see what you mean about an additional MA!

@cupofdecaf can I ask how old you were when you joined the civil service? I'm worried I'm too old to start!

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cupofdecaf · 19/09/2020 12:21

I was early 20s but I see plenty of people joining later. The civil service does well off very good people joining later on when the maybe want to take things a bit slower or benefit from maternity/ family friendly policies.
I work with a lady training to be a solicitor in her 50s.
I've found if you work hard and apply yourself you'll progress. Sometimes I actually think they'd be better off employing less ambitious people that just wanted to do the day job for years, it'd mean more stability in the roles.
Just be cautious of getting stuck in an easy role or with an unsupportive manager. Most will be good.
You firstly need to find out which departments have office's commutable for you and sign up on the civil service jobs website.

It's all about competencies by the way. Learn how to do them as good candidates get passed over because they don't do them right. Good luck

Clipartist · 19/09/2020 15:46

Thanks, I will definitely look into applying. Any areas that are in particularly high demand within the civil service ?

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cupofdecaf · 19/09/2020 21:35

I don't know about high demand. Depends on where you can commute to and what departments have an office there.

plerty2 · 19/09/2020 21:42

Mid thirties, post PhD, few years in research then I did just that. Completed a highly vocational MSc and now work as a Allied health professional. Love my job.

LostHerSheep · 19/09/2020 23:02

No specific advice but just wanted to say good luck - you're not too old.

I started an MSc aged 36 to enable a career change and have no regrets 4 years later. I'm on the path to where I want to be and I continually see how my age and previous experiences make me a well-rounded and respected employee. I come with plenty of 'extras' that the younger staff don't yet have, and I learn loads from them about newer approaches.

PersephonePromotesEquanimity · 20/09/2020 00:09

Oh, was "too old" the question? Sorry, I missed that!

No, of course you're not too old, either for further study or a new career.

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