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Band 6 payscale

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Crazymaisienumber9 · 18/09/2020 18:55

Hi a quick question regarding what rung on band 6 payscale I would be on. Please.
Worked as band 6 nurse in speciality from Sept 2004 to may 2010, left went to work elsewhere for 4 years healthcare related but not same speciality. Then returned to speciality again on point 6 on band 6 payscale , from august 2014 to Jan 2019. Got promotion to band 7 in same speciality since january 2019 till present day.

But I am leaving december to go to band 6 job not in my speciality. I have been asking what rung I will be on in new job....it is a different trust, i need to know this before i commit to the job. Obviously i want top band 6. How do i find out for sure. Verbally told i should be ok but want it as a firm offer. Been round the houses looking for this anyone got some suggestions. Also does my band 7 cover me for time served for a band 6 position ?? Ta in advance .

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KeepSmiling89 · 20/09/2020 01:22

Hi...can't say for sure but I guess you'd go to bottom point of band 6 pay scale as its a new trust and a different speciality.
Doesn't hurt to ask though given your experience especially at band 7. I'm guessing you've had an interview and been offered the job already? Would be a bit cheeky to go straight into salary before being offered the job (although some I've applied for have given the salary range then put "dependent on experience" afterwards)

Out of curiosity, why are you leaving to go back to band 6, particularly if the pay is playing a big part in your commitment to taking the job? Just interest in a different speciality...?

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Crazymaisienumber9 · 20/09/2020 05:05

Thanks KeepSmiling89 I've spoken to different people and they seem to be saying that as I've already done about 9 years as a band 6 then it should carry over but for me I'd prefer a definite answer.
As to why I'm doing this, well I've been a band 7 for about 2 years and the payscale wont change so much over the next few years as there isnt much financial difference between a top band 6 and early band 7 scales for the first few years . I'm 55 and cant see me doing the band 7 job for another 3 to 5 years but maybe could at this band 6 job as it appears less intense.

I like my current job but unfortunately the people I work with have caused significant issues over the last 5 years with bullying, manipulative and deceitful behaviour which management have never taken them to task about. They would rather let them get away with it even though they know what they're doing. We have had 4 managers in 5 years because of these personalities. I'm leaving because it is now affecting my mental health and even though management are saying they're putting things in place now I cant trust theyll deal with it properly and if it kicks off again I dont know how I will be able to cope. I had nearly 6 months off already because of it, and I went to staff support for counselling and her answer was to get a new job because it had gone on so long and it isnt going to change, so here I am. Life is too short and I need to look after me because they dont/wont.

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shotby3armedbastards · 20/09/2020 07:03

I had this when I dropped from an 8b to a 7. When I got my salary confirmed in writing at bottom band 7 I challenged it citing previous extensive and senior experience in the speciality (I was dropping bands to work part time after maternity leave and relocating). I took a gamble and said I wouldn't take the position on bottom band 7 and they were free to readvertise and recruit again. I got top band 7. Remember when they budget for recruitment they have budgeted for top band 6 as they have don't know who will apply. It's a myth that there is no salary negotiation in the NHS.

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Crazymaisienumber9 · 20/09/2020 10:35

Thanks shotby3armedbastards that's good to know. I haven't either handed in my notice or accepted the job as yet and wont until I know where I am on the scale and they know that. I think nurses for their sanity, productivity and respect beyond the profession need to move away from the 'we do it because we love it ' and 'it's a vocation ' mind set and rhetoric. I've been doing this job a long time and it has got us nowhere . Nurses need a decent wage for the responsibility they hold.

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Feminist10101 · 20/09/2020 10:40

Remember when they budget for recruitment they have budgeted for top band 6 as they have don't know who will apply. It's a myth that there is no salary negotiation in the NHS.

That’s not strictly true. The norm is to assume midpoint plus on costs. I’ve just had my Trust change to top of scale because that’s more likely to happen (plus worst case scenario).

Salary negotiation is within a limited framework.

OP, it shouldn’t be hard to argue for the top of band 6 in your case.

shotby3armedbastards · 20/09/2020 11:51

@Feminist10101 the trusts I've worked in and I've recruited into have always budgeted for the top as otherwise you would have massive overspend a if you are a big ward or department and regularly recruit at the top of a band. I'd never get past the vacancy control panel if i couldn't show that I could afford the full whack out my budget

Feminist10101 · 20/09/2020 12:56

Indeed.

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Crazymaisienumber9 · 20/09/2020 13:43

Thanks everyone, i will be making a few calls tomorrow to try to get it confirmed then I can accept and resign simultaneously.

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user1471462115 · 22/09/2020 07:58

Top of Band 6.
Moving Trusts should not matter and you and your experience are worth top of Band 6.
I had to show a payslip when 8 moved Trusts to prove my Band 7 salary

Asdf12345 · 22/09/2020 14:04

You should be able to swing top of band six but may have to play hardball. Are you prepared to walk away?

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