Redundancy and pregnant

[Xiomara22]

So I'm facing redundancy...
There's 3 of us in the team all under the same title, it's a male dominated industry and the other two are male and have 10years experience plus on myself .

I however have been doing a completely different role to the others for approx 12 months (no contract changes pretty much a secondment). They've scored us on our role profile.

I am at a disadvantage due to not being there anywhere near as long as them and also because I've concentrated my efforts in a different role under the impression that that role will become a position next year.

Do I have a leg to stand on?

I'm also pregnant and if it is me chosen I'd like them to Honor my maternity leave. Has anyone managed this? I know it's at company discretion but hopeful stories would be helpful right now.

How pregnant are you? If you are still there at 25 weeks pregnant then you would qualify for your maternity pay anyway.

@dementedpixie

How pregnant are you? If you are still there at 25 weeks pregnant then you would qualify for your maternity pay anyway.

20 weeks currently. Do you have a link for this info? Thank you

maternityaction.org.uk/advice/redundancy-during-pregnancy-and-maternity-leave/

@dementedpixie thank you

I’m not sure what you mean do you have a leg to stand on?

Were you consulted on the selection criteria/process? Did you have concerns about the proposed criteria and if so, did you raise these?

Do you feel your scores are fair and accurate?

@flowery

I’m not sure what you mean do you have a leg to stand on?

Were you consulted on the selection criteria/process? Did you have concerns about the proposed criteria and if so, did you raise these?

Do you feel your scores are fair and accurate?

We got given a matrix which is used in the company no matter what your role is and no I don't feel I was scored fairly as I've been in another role for 12 months if not more concentrating on that. The matrix is mainly about age and experience both of which the other two have 10 years on me.

By a leg to stand on I mean do I have a good case for them not scoring us for what we've actually been doing.

Have you raised your concerns about the bias on the matrix?

Organisations sometimes to pick things like “years of experience” which can then lead to claims of indirect age discrimination. But you actually have “age” on the matrix? I am incredulous, that is as bizarre as putting race on the matrix and having a sliding scale of scores depending on ethnic origin.

I literally do not understand the sentence “do I have a good case for them not scoring us for what we have actually been doing”. They will score you according to whatever the criteria on the matrix are.

"We got given a matrix which is used in the company no matter what your role is"

Difficult to challenge a matrix which is standard across the company, you'd have to come up with compelling reasons why it is unfair, especially if it was agreed with a recognised union.

"No I don't feel I was scored fairly as I've been in another role for 12 months if not more concentrating on that."

The reason why your scores are lower is irrelevant (unless it was perhaps maternity leave or something). What matters is whether the score itself is fair. If you don't have a certain skill, and are scored down as a result, then the reason you don't have it doesn't matter. What's key is are your scores accurate - do they reflect accurately what your score should be against the criteria they were using?

"The matrix is mainly about age and experience both of which the other two have 10 years on me."

The matrix has age as a criteria? That would be direct age discrimination so should be challenged immediately

If it has number of years' experience as a criteria that could also potentially be challenged for the same reason. But if the additional experience is relevant to the role and it actually makes a difference whether you have 10 years or 5, ie you gain something in those extra years, it's easier to defend.

"By a leg to stand on I mean do I have a good case for them not scoring us for what we've actually been doing."

Not sure I understand this comment. If they have a set matrix they have to use, they are right to score against that. You could argue that the matrix itself is inherently unfair and potentially discrimnnatory on the basis of age, and/or you could argue that your scores against the criteria are not accurate, eg they've scored you 5 out of 10 for productivity and you feel you should score higher on that for xyz reason.