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MNHQ here: free legal clinic with Maternity Action on maternity and parental rights at work during the Covid-19 crisis

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BojanaMumsnet · 01/06/2020 09:12

Free online advice clinic 1 - 5 June 2020

Mumsnet and Maternity Action are teaming up to provide an online legal clinic, offering free advice on pregnancy, maternity and parental rights at work from volunteer employment solicitors and barristers.

Maternity Action reports huge demand for its advice line, especially topics such as redundancy during maternity leave, return to work and maternity pay, and on Mumsnet's Talk forums, the topic of employment rights is a hardy perennial.

The clinic will respond to this demand in a hopefully innovative way, providing free, accurate, public advice online and raising awareness of parents' rights at work. It will also enable Maternity Action and Mumsnet to identify trends and produce permanent content to address areas in which employers and workers could benefit from clear, upfront guidance.

The clinic will take the form of a 'Q&A' session on Mumsnet, with members of the public posting questions about your questions on pregnancy, maternity and parental rights at work during the Covid-19 pandemic on a dedicated public discussion thread. Specialist solicitors and barristers will take necessary additional detail via private messaging before posting up answers and advice.

The clinic will run for a week from Monday 1st to Friday 5th June and will be held on a quarterly basis. We will do our best to provide all answers during the week but, at the latest, by the Monday of the following week. You can find information on where to go for more help once the clinic has ended here: Where-to-go-for-more-help-2.pdf

What to do if you’d like to post a question

  1. If you have a question about your rights at work during pregnancy, maternity or parental leave please post it online during the week of the clinic. Please give as much information as possible but remember that this is an online forum and can be viewed by the public – including your colleagues and employer. Please don’t name your employer publicly if you are likely to be taking action against them in future. You can use the private message facility to disclose any information you would prefer to keep off the public forums.
  2. Please send your name and the name of your employer by private message to MaternityActionfreeadvice so that it can be passed on to the volunteers to do a conflict of interest check. We cannot post a reply until you have sent this information by private message.
  3. Once your advice has been posted online, you will have an opportunity to provide feedback. This helps us to find out whether you found the advice helpful, whether it helped you to resolve your situation at work and some information about you. All survey responses are anonymous and confidential. Providing feedback will help us to see what improvements can be made in developing this type of online free legal advice clinic. You can fill out the survey here: www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/CX28XKX

Ts and Cs – please read

The advice provided to an individual poster is based only on the information provided by that poster. Advice on this thread is also particular to the individual who has asked for it and is likely to be specific to that person’s situation. A poster may have provided further relevant information by private message which will not appear on this thread. So please take care if you choose to apply that advice to your own situation - it is recommended that you first take legal advice from one of the sources we have suggested here: Where-to-go-for-more-help-2.pdf

Mumsnet, Maternity Action and Maternity Action's volunteers accept no liability for any loss suffered as a result of an individual choosing to follow advice provided to another poster's question on the thread.
The lawyers, all of whom are specialists in employment law, will be working as volunteers for Maternity Action in respect of the clinic. Any personal information collected as a result of the clinic will be held by Maternity Action and will be deleted after 18 months. If you wish to make a complaint about the service you received, you can use Maternity Action’s complaints policy here: maternityaction.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Complaints-Policy.pdf

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MaternityActionfreeadvice · 02/06/2020 15:27

@Purple98

My partner was advised by 111 to shield with me at the start of lockdown for 12 weeks as it wasnt possible for him to keep 2 metres distance at work but his employer refused to pay him furlough or ssp since so he has had no income, is his employer allowed to do this or must he furlough him?
Firstly, I assume that your partner has not agreed to take unpaid leave in respect of his period of absence and has made this known to this employer. Secondly, I am assuming that you received a letter from the NHS or your GP advising you to shield as it doesn't apply to all pregnant women. Information on shielding is here: www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19#what-is-shielding

It is the employer’s choice to designate employees on to the furlough scheme, so no your partner’s employer cannot be compelled to furlough him. However, if they are choosing not to furlough him then he is entitled to SSP as the reason for his non-attendance is related to the coronavirus and isolation rules and will therefore be eligible to receive SSP – he can even download a notification from 111. It may well be worth informing the employer that it would be better off furloughing him (especially before the 10th June which is the last day they can place him on furlough before the scheme is wound down) as SSP is only reclaimable for two weeks and the furlough scheme, at present, incurs no cost.

The CJRS encourages employers to furlough employees in situations such as these and for those with childcare issues, but it is not mandatory. Your partner can show his employer the Government guidance on furlough which says:

If your employee is shielding

Employees who are unable to work because they are shielding in line with public health guidance (or need to stay home with someone who is shielding) can be furloughed.

www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-for-wage-costs-through-the-coronavirus-job-retention-scheme

If they fail to take the above action he may well have a claim for associative discrimination on the grounds of your pregnancy/sex. I would advise your partner to ask his employer for the basis of their decision not to place him on furlough or to place him on SSP, as the reason is discriminatory it will be unlawful. Your partner may wish to take further advice and should raise these concerns with his employer in the form of a formal grievance. Furthermore, he may have a claim for constructive unfair dismissal as their actions may arguably breach the implied term of mutual trust and confidence (assuming he has been employed for 2 years).

rachiemill · 02/06/2020 15:27

Hi I work in a care home, Iam currently 22 weeks pregnant. We now have confirmed cases of covid19 within the home. My manager is telling me that I still have to go into the confirmed patients rooms and do direct care with them regardless of being pregnant. They have said that pregnant ladies are no longer classed as vulnerable as there is no evidence to support it so no reason why I shouldn't be in direct patient contact with positive cases as long as I wear ppe. I don't feel comfortable being in direct contact with them. Iam happy to go to any one else, there is more than enough staff on duty at any time for me to to be in contact. Also I've had a risk assessment when I first found out I was pregnant before covid19 became properly known however I haven't had a risk assessment since guideline have changed and do not have a risk assessment in place that mentions covid and how they will reduce the risk to me or to outline any steps to minimise the risk. Iam unable to keep social distance from people within the workplace and this has not been addressed.should I have a risk assessment to include covid? Thank you so much for any help you can give me

PipTed · 02/06/2020 16:22

@MaternityActionfreeadvice thank you for coming back to me 😊 that will help me make an informed decision on telling my employer. Thank you.

cherrylola · 03/06/2020 05:53

Hi Maternity Action,
I'm currently on maternity, which ends at the end of this month. My boss is refusing to furlough me because there is still work to do. I can work from home. However, I don't have any childcare for my 3 children. I can't settle my baby into a childcare setting as the childminder I have lined up months ago isn't open yet. My older childrens' year groups are not going back to school yet (we don't know when they will be) and when they do will only be part time. My employer wants me to continue working all my hours as usual, from home. I've informed him that I don't have any childcare and that I'll have to care for the children while working. He has now decided that if I can't work all my hours he will reduce my contracted hours. I feel really vulnerable as I can't afford a reduction in income and long term I can't afford to have my contracted hours slashed. I'm really worried about trying to juggle it all and it's affecting my mental health as I'm loosing sleep over it. My preference would just to be furloughed due to childcare issues but my boss won't let me as he still has work he wants me to do.
Thank you.

cherrylola · 03/06/2020 05:54

I'm using the Mumsnet app, how do I private message MaternityActionfreeadvice ?

MindfulUrchin89 · 03/06/2020 08:06

I just wanted to take the time to say thank you for your support and guidance. It's exceptionally helpful and should hopefully help me find a resolution with my employer. :)

RowanMumsnet · 03/06/2020 09:35

@cherrylola

I'm using the Mumsnet app, how do I private message MaternityActionfreeadvice ?
Sorry to be a pain @cherrylola but you can't private message on the app. Can you use the mobile version? If you go to the Mumsnet website on your mobile browser, there's a link at the very bottom of every page to convert to the mobile version. (Or use the desktop version if you have a laptop or desktop.) Sorry about the faff.
NAL22 · 03/06/2020 11:56

Due to COVID 19 and the down turn in business my company have currently furloughed me whilst pregnant up until w month before my due date. For the rest of the year whilst not on furlough everyone in the company has enforced a 25% pay reduction for all employees until December 2020 including maternity leave so I will be on maternity at a reduced rate at a time when every penny will count to us.
As compensation they have given us an additional weeks leave for every month we are taking the 25% pay reduction which must be used by the end of this year. I have now accrued due to this several weeks of leave to use before I go on maternity leave which isn’t possible as I don’t have the time before I am due but am taking the same pay reduction as everyone else which seems unfair I’m being penalised and not able to take the leave anyways because going on maternity but still expected to take a reduction in pay.
Due to this I have requested I use as much of this leave as possible and use 2 weeks of this past my due date (up until my induction date) so if baby is late I would use this leave for those 2 weeks to avoid going on maternity leave when I still have leave to be used which can’t be carried over. My company have rejected this request and said they will only let me use my leave up until my due date and not past and therefore have said I have no choice but to lose the leave I’m owed even though I’m taking a pay cut like everyone else and they will get to use their leave.
I’ve read on several sources sites that you are allowed to use leave past your due date if you wish to until baby is born and then if baby was born before this time maternity would automatically kick in which is fine but I don’t understand why I’m not being able to use something I’m entitled to.
Could someone please let me know where I stand with this? Is there any legal reasons I can’t do this as like I say everywhere I read says this is permitted but I’m being told it is not.
Thanks

busybee987 · 03/06/2020 13:52

Hi maternity action,

thanks for your previous reply which has been helpful however are you able to offer any advice as to how my employers can calculate how i should be paid. I spoke with them briefly yesterday and their plan going forward is that I will be furloughed at 80% of my monthly salary. I queried whether they cud give me an average of the 4 months from last year I did work but was told it didn't work like that and was connected to the tax year, so April 2019 would be the only month available to me. As overtime is a normal part of my normal work, they don't seem to know how to calculate and rather than fall fowl of HMRC are only prepared to pay me my monthly salary. I appreciate my situation is rather niche but is there any guidance on how they should calculate it

MaternityActionfreeadvice · 03/06/2020 14:03

@Aj92

My employer refused to furlough me when I was 27 weeks pregnant and said I would only be entitled to ssp. I had to take my maternity leave early and use annual leave until my mat pay started. Is this correct?
Dear Aj92

You may be entitled to bring a claim against your employer for unlawful deduction of wages/pregnancy discrimination, if you can show that during the Coronavirus pandemic your employer failed to find suitable alternative work (such as allowing you to work from home) or, if that option was not available and your working environment meant you were at risk of exposure to the virus, to medically suspend you from your role on full pay.

At the end of March 2020, the government identified pregnant women as those who were at risk during the crisis, and therefore advised them to be particularly careful to practise social distancing and to work from home wherever possible, avoid public transport and contact with others, other than those within your household. This is the current guidance, see section 9 at the end: www.gov.uk/government/publications/staying-alert-and-safe-social-distancing/staying-alert-and-safe-social-distancing

Employers were advised to allow pregnant employees to work from home, where possible. If home working was not available, an employer was obliged to carry out a risk assessment under Health and Safety legislation to identify the risk posed to that pregnant employee in respect of exposure to the virus at their place of work. If, following that risk assessment, an employer was unable to remove the risk posed to that pregnant employee it was obliged to suspend that employee on full pay. This is known as a medical suspension.

The furlough, or job retention scheme, was introduced to allow an employee's wages to be paid at up to 80% by the government in situations where, owing to the Coronavirus pandemic, that employee would have been made redundant. Furlough requires the consent of both employer and employee before an employee can be placed on furlough and employers cannot be compelled to place an employee on furlough. Your employer could have placed you on furlough in order to recoup the costs of a maternity suspension if you were unable to work from home or there was no suitable alternative work available. Your employer ought to have considered both of these options before insisting you took SSP, which was only relevant to employees who were unwell with the virus, or self-isolating with symptoms.

Therefore, in circumstances where a pregnant employee has been refused health and safety protection (either by working from home, medical suspension or being placed on furlough by agreement) meaning that the employee has been forced to use annual leave and start her maternity leave early, a claim may arise for unlawful deductions of wages and/or pregnancy discrimination. I suggest getting further legal advice about making a claim as this may depend on your role and your employer's reasoning for refusing furlough/offering medical suspension.

Please note, any claim for discrimination must be presented to the employment tribunal within three months (less one day) of the date of the detrimental act and you need to contact ACAS on 0300 123 1100 within the time limit to start early conciliation. Unfortunately, this means that you may need to contact ACAS quite soon, for example, if you were off work since 16th March, the time limit for contacting ACAS will be 15th June.

We have further information on where you can get more help and how to start a tribunal claim here: Where-to-go-for-more-help-2.pdf

Bradlejson · 03/06/2020 14:27

I am now in 20 week of pregnancy and working on full time contract (11 years). After risk assessment conducted end of March I was asked for make a choice to stay at home for a 12 weeks or back to work as usual. Change a role at work or satellite work from home has not been proposed. It's busy warehouse place and a picker job role. I have not been informed what kinds of changes have been made on site to minimise risk, and have been advised to stay at home. Also I have been informed I will get SSP only pay. The first formal letter (template used from maternityaction website) to HR department with the request to put me on furlough scheme or suspend on full pay has been sent. Respond from HR back after 20 days and say I am staying on SSP because I am not EXTREMELY VULNERABLE person.
After consulting the problem wit ACAS advisor, I sent another letter to HR department.
During the consultation of my case with an ACAS adviser,
I was informed when the risk was not completely removed in the workplace and,
I as a pregnant woman are in a high risk group, and it is not possible for me to do my job safely in the workplace when the risk is not completely removed, I am entitled to be suspended on full pay for as long as the risk remains.
Another respond from HR was I am not eligible to be a furlough or suspend on the full pay, they continue to paying me SSP.
Did the company make the mistake of letting me go for isolation and pay SSP only ?

MaternityActionfreeadvice · 03/06/2020 15:49

@cherrylola

Hi Maternity Action, I'm currently on maternity, which ends at the end of this month. My boss is refusing to furlough me because there is still work to do. I can work from home. However, I don't have any childcare for my 3 children. I can't settle my baby into a childcare setting as the childminder I have lined up months ago isn't open yet. My older childrens' year groups are not going back to school yet (we don't know when they will be) and when they do will only be part time. My employer wants me to continue working all my hours as usual, from home. I've informed him that I don't have any childcare and that I'll have to care for the children while working. He has now decided that if I can't work all my hours he will reduce my contracted hours. I feel really vulnerable as I can't afford a reduction in income and long term I can't afford to have my contracted hours slashed. I'm really worried about trying to juggle it all and it's affecting my mental health as I'm loosing sleep over it. My preference would just to be furloughed due to childcare issues but my boss won't let me as he still has work he wants me to do. Thank you.
Hi cherrylola,

Thank you for your query.

Provided your employer has used appropriate, non-discriminatory criteria in choosing who to Furlough it is possible for an employer to choose to only Furlough part of the workforce. So, if your employer has followed a fair and non-discriminatory selection process in deciding who to Furlough you do not have the “right” to be Furloughed, it is your employer’s decision alone. You could ask your employer who has and has not been Furloughed and see if there is a solution whereby you can be Furloughed in place of someone else. In terms of childcare, I assume you are not a Key Worker who can use such childcare provisions.

The Furlough scheme is also closed to new applications from the 10 June, so if you were to ask your employer to Furlough you, you unfortunately have a very short window of opportunity to do so.

In terms of homeworking, your employer should take a pragmatic and flexible approach to your work and allow you such latitude as: working different hours, agreeing with you that you may not be able to (temporarily) work a full week or day; reducing work targets and allowing flexibility in terms of deadlines. More details of this can be found in the ACAS: Working From Home Guidance www.acas.org.uk/working-from-home.
You could remind your employer of this Guidance and work together to see if a compromise can be reached. Any variation to your contract can only be done with your consent and should, in these circumstances be temporary and kept under review. However, you only have the right to be paid if you are ready and available for work.

You can assert your right to take time off for dependents or dependent leave www.gov.uk/parental-leave/entitlement, however both of these are unpaid unless your contract of employment states otherwise. The former also only offers limited time off, to deal with an emergency. You could also offer to use any accrued but untaken holiday.

Unfortunately, the Government guidance falls short of compelling employers to Furlough those who cannot work and merely “urges employers to take socially responsible decisions and to listen to the concerns of the workforce.” I would encourage you to keep communicating with your employer to see if you can come to a solution that works. Arguably any disciplinary action, including any termination which your employer sought to impose due to your non-attendance would be unfair, particularly if you have tried to engage with your employer on resolving the situation and put forward alternatives.

Finally, as you are a woman, you can also argue that a blanket ban or unconsidered assumption that you will not be able to undertake your work which will impact more women than men because women tend to have more childcare responsibilities than men could also be direct sex discrimination. You should therefore also ask your employer to allow you to trial an agreed and flexible working arrangement before assuming that you cannot make this work.

MaternityActionfreeadvice · 03/06/2020 15:56

@NAL22

Due to COVID 19 and the down turn in business my company have currently furloughed me whilst pregnant up until w month before my due date. For the rest of the year whilst not on furlough everyone in the company has enforced a 25% pay reduction for all employees until December 2020 including maternity leave so I will be on maternity at a reduced rate at a time when every penny will count to us. As compensation they have given us an additional weeks leave for every month we are taking the 25% pay reduction which must be used by the end of this year. I have now accrued due to this several weeks of leave to use before I go on maternity leave which isn’t possible as I don’t have the time before I am due but am taking the same pay reduction as everyone else which seems unfair I’m being penalised and not able to take the leave anyways because going on maternity but still expected to take a reduction in pay. Due to this I have requested I use as much of this leave as possible and use 2 weeks of this past my due date (up until my induction date) so if baby is late I would use this leave for those 2 weeks to avoid going on maternity leave when I still have leave to be used which can’t be carried over. My company have rejected this request and said they will only let me use my leave up until my due date and not past and therefore have said I have no choice but to lose the leave I’m owed even though I’m taking a pay cut like everyone else and they will get to use their leave. I’ve read on several sources sites that you are allowed to use leave past your due date if you wish to until baby is born and then if baby was born before this time maternity would automatically kick in which is fine but I don’t understand why I’m not being able to use something I’m entitled to. Could someone please let me know where I stand with this? Is there any legal reasons I can’t do this as like I say everywhere I read says this is permitted but I’m being told it is not. Thanks
Dear NAL22

Maternity leave starts on the earliest of (a) the date you notified your employer as your intended maternity leave start date (which can be varied by providing 28 days’ notice of the new start date or existing start date, whichever is earlier), (b) the first day you are absent from work wholly or partly because of pregnancy in the last four weeks before the expected week of childbirth, or (c) the date of the birth. Subject to (b) and (c), and so long as proper notice is given, the employer cannot prevent you taking the maternity leave from the date that you request. There is no rule around maternity leave commencing on the due date and, in theory, it is quite possible to take annual leave up to and beyond the due date if maternity leave has not commenced.

However, the company can direct when you can and cannot take holiday as this is a different subject, and they can refuse requests to take holiday. As a result, it is possible for them not to allow you to take it in the dates you have mentioned. If they do refuse the holiday request but your maternity leave has not started, you would either get paid to be at work or be on furlough, depending on the arrangements at the time. Depending on the contractual wording in terms of the agreement to have holiday to balance the pay cut, the usual rights around holiday and maternity leave are that if you are prevented from taking holiday due to maternity leave (or other family / sick leave) then you are entitled to carry this over until your return. You therefore should not be losing the holiday because of being on maternity leave, even if you are not able to take it during this calendar year (particularly where they have not let you take it at an earlier point). It is possible that they have tried to specify something different in the specific wording you have agreed to, but that would likely be discriminatory. However, you should take specific legal advice on that wording if you are unsure.

I hope that helps you to resolve it.

Backhometothenorth · 03/06/2020 18:52

My partner and I are both working from home with two children and managing to juggle the working week by carefully planning meetings around each other's diaries and I have moved some calls to the weekend where possible. I am careful not to have my children with me on client facing calls but today was on a three hour team meeting and had to be in the same room as my three year old as my husband also had calls. I was very upset to receive a text from my boss to say that my daughter should not be visible and she later went on to discuss this with the whole team which was just awful. Should I understand from this that I should have asked for furlough? We have really worked hard to try and make this work and I feel humiliated.

AnnaBegins · 03/06/2020 20:20

I work for a large UK based company. Due to covid-19, they have told all employees to take half their remaining holiday by end of August. Employees who have booked holiday post-August have that removed from their total remaining days to be halved e.g. If 25 days allowance, 6 taken in Feb, 5 booked for October, the employee would need to take half of 14 days (so 7) before end August.
However those on maternity leave have no option to pre-book leave for once they return, as we're not assigned to a team/manager. So when I return in late August, I'm being told I need to take 4 of the first 5 working days as holiday, leaving me none for the rest of the year (bar prescribed Christmas shutdown).
If I had been in work, I would have had access to book holiday in advance for e.g. the first week of half days at school, and October half term, and would probably only have 1 or 2 days left to book by now, based on previous years' behaviour. But I'm on maternity leave, so at a disadvantage.
Our HR dept cannot make their mind up how to treat those on maternity leave and I have received conflicting responses. Am I correct that they cannot place those on maternity leave at a disadvantage by not allowing them the same opportunities as employees in work?
Thank you.

FerneyAndGally · 03/06/2020 21:41

I’m currently on maternity leave, and wrote to my employer giving them 8 weeks’ notice that I intended to return to work in mid-July. They were planning on putting me on furlough from my return date until the scheme finishes in October. I don’t think it’s relevant, but the first 6 weeks of my return would be holiday that I’d accrued during maternity leave.

I now understand that the furlough scheme is closing to ‘new applicants’ on 10 June. Does this mean that my employer would not be able to furlough me at all, given my planned return date of mid-July? I’m concerned that my employer will just make me redundant if they are not able to access the furlough benefit.

Any advice would be hugely appreciated.

MaternityActionfreeadvice · 04/06/2020 09:36

@busybee987

Hi maternity action,

thanks for your previous reply which has been helpful however are you able to offer any advice as to how my employers can calculate how i should be paid. I spoke with them briefly yesterday and their plan going forward is that I will be furloughed at 80% of my monthly salary. I queried whether they cud give me an average of the 4 months from last year I did work but was told it didn't work like that and was connected to the tax year, so April 2019 would be the only month available to me. As overtime is a normal part of my normal work, they don't seem to know how to calculate and rather than fall fowl of HMRC are only prepared to pay me my monthly salary. I appreciate my situation is rather niche but is there any guidance on how they should calculate it

Dear Busybee987

Happy to try to help with this further if we're able to. Your employer can only use two options for furlough. If you have a fixed salary, they use your normal salary, not maternity pay. But if your hours vary (which presumably they do if your overtime varies) they use your average earnings over the 2019/20 tax year or the same month in the previous year. If you were furloughed in May 2020, they would use May 2019. If the only month you were not on maternity leave was April 2019, they will need to use your earnings in that month, including overtime.

The Government guidance clearly states that furlough pay must include overtime if it is non-discretionary e.g. you have a contractual right to overtime.
See: www.gov.uk/guidance/work-out-80-of-your-employees-wages-to-claim-through-the-coronavirus-job-retention-scheme

What to include when calculating wages

The amount you should use when calculating 80% of your employees’ wages is regular payments you are obliged to make, including:

regular wages you pay to employees
non-discretionary payments for hours worked, including overtime
non-discretionary fees
non-discretionary commission payments
piece rate payments

This suggests that your employer should use the following calculation for April 2019 or the part of the 2019/20 tax year in which you were not on maternity leave and this would be your furlough pay for each month of furlough:

To calculate 80% of the same month’s wages from the previous year:

Start with the amount they earned in the same period last year. [This should include any overtime payments in that period.]

Divide by the total number of days in this pay period - including non-working days.

Multiply by the number of furlough days in this pay period.

Multiply by 80%.

As mentioned before, your employer may be able to get help from HMRC if they are still unsure but they will also need to seek help with how to amend a furlough claim if they have not claimed correctly for last month. The guidance still does not state how employers can amend claims. However, if your employer does not pay you correctly you may have to make a claim for unlawful deduction of wages and bear in mind the time limit.

I hope you're able to resolve it.

MaternityActionfreeadvice · 04/06/2020 11:10

@Doddy19

At 25 week pregnant, I asked my employer if I could be furlough. They said I couldn't be furlough as the company was still open and running. I work in a care home not as a career but an activity coordinator, my job role also includes some personal care. Because of this I didn't feel it was safe for me to work this close to residents, also no PPE for activity staff! They gave the impression that I was at no more of a risk than someone working with asthma. So if I felt unsafe at work I could to take all my annual leave then start my maternity leave (5 weeks before I wanted to start it) Have I been treated fairly? Where they correct be not furlough me? Many thanks
Dear Doddy19

Thank you for your query, I’m sorry to hear that your employer has made you feel unsafe in the workplace during your pregnancy.

Your employer has a legal obligation to protect your health and safety in the workplace during your pregnancy. They are required to assess the workplace risk posed to you and, if any significant risk (including that from coronavirus) is identified, to alter your working conditions or hours to avoid that risk. If it is not reasonable or possible to alter your working conditions or hours, or if doing so would not avoid the risk posed to you, your employer is obliged to offer you suitable alternative work on terms that are not substantially less favourable than your existing terms. This could be, for example, redeploying you away from a role that involves contact with patients, or requiring you to work from home. If this is not possible, for example because it is not possible for you to be redeployed to a non-contact role, or to work from home, then your employer should suspend you from work on full pay until your maternity leave commences.

I would therefore recommend that you ask to see the health and safety risk assessment that your employer undertook in relation to you continuing to work during your pregnancy. If they have not completed a risk assessment, they should do so as soon as possible and act upon the results. If they refuse, you should consider your legal options, including a claim for pregnancy discrimination and/or contacting the Health and Safety Executive to lodge a complaint.

If your employer has undertaken a risk assessment and concluded that there is no risk to you continuing to work during your pregnancy and/or that adjustments can be made to your workplace or role to minimise those risks, then you should consider whether you agree with their conclusions. If you don’t agree, you could consider, raising a grievance regarding the treatment that you have received. If you raise a grievance I recommend that you specifically refer to the duty of care that your employer owes you, the fact that you consider their treatment of you to be pregnancy discrimination, and that you also read and refer to the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists occupational health guidance, which recommends that those over 28 weeks’ pregnant working in the health/care sector should be redeployed away from front line roles, unless a risk assessment specifically states that it is safe for them to continue to work in direct contact with patients.

If you think that your employer’s conclusions are reasonable, but that you do not feel comfortable continuing to work in your current role whilst you are pregnant, then as you have said, starting your maternity leave earlier or using up your annual leave could be good options for you. However, you should bear in mind that your employer can refuse your request to take annual leave if it needs you in work. You could also consider contacting your midwife, consultant or GP and asking for their assistance in signing you off from work if they agree that it is not appropriate for you to be working and/or that the anxiety or stress caused means that you are unable to work.

Furlough is a reimbursement scheme and it is up to your employer to decide whether they need to use it. It can be used, for example, for employees who are unable to work for childcare reasons or who are shielding. Your employer must ensure that furlough is not used in a discriminatory way. If your employer decided that it was not safe for you to remain in the workplace and suspended you on full pay, they could put you on furlough and claim help with the cost of your wages because you are unable to work because of coronavirus.

I hope that helps you to resolve it.

Dementeddotcom · 04/06/2020 11:47

Can’t call due to broken phone I am 30 weeks pregnant and my EDD is 22/07/2020. I work in a care home as a care assistant. I have underlying health conditions but not enough to receive a shielding letter.
I was off on sick leave on 02/03/2020 until 13/04/2020. During this time the UK went into lockdown and I messaged my boss asking to be furloughed but this was rejected. I sent the original email on 30/03/2020 and didn’t get a response to that email until 21/04/2020.
It took some emailing her with lots of legislation etc for them to finally offer me a non-patient facing position with the same pay etc, which started on 04/05/2020.
I didn’t work between 13/04/2020 and 04/05/2020 so there are 3 weeks that have been unaccounted for. Am I able to ask for full pay in these 3 weeks as I was waiting for them to get back to me and for a risk assessment to be completed due to my work being unsafe?

MaternityActionfreeadvice · 04/06/2020 17:06

@FerneyAndGally

I’m currently on maternity leave, and wrote to my employer giving them 8 weeks’ notice that I intended to return to work in mid-July. They were planning on putting me on furlough from my return date until the scheme finishes in October. I don’t think it’s relevant, but the first 6 weeks of my return would be holiday that I’d accrued during maternity leave.

I now understand that the furlough scheme is closing to ‘new applicants’ on 10 June. Does this mean that my employer would not be able to furlough me at all, given my planned return date of mid-July? I’m concerned that my employer will just make me redundant if they are not able to access the furlough benefit.

Any advice would be hugely appreciated.

Dear FerneyAndGally

Thank you for your query. You raise a very important issue in relation to the recent announcement that the furlough scheme will be closed to new employees from the 10th June.

Employers are able to furlough a parent at the same time as they are on maternity, adoption or shared parental leave in order to claim help with the costs of any occupational maternity, adoption or shared parental pay. However, if you have only been receiving SMP or Maternity Allowance during your maternity leave or you are returning from a period of unpaid leave, even if your employer treats you as being on furlough at the same time, they will not have made a claim for your wages under the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme and will not be able to add a new employee if they weren't claiming help with your wages before 10th June.

Maternity Action has written to the Government to raise this issue and we will keep our website updated if there is any change in this policy. You could also write to your MP to raise this issue.

If there isn't any change of policy, you may need to explore other ways to extend your time off work and to avoid the risk of redundancy, however, this will also impact new parents as the only other options largely involve unpaid leave.

In your situation, you could withdraw your notice to end your maternity leave early and take the full year of maternity leave as well as asking your employer if you can take annual leave at the end of your maternity leave. You can also give 21 days' notice to take Parental Leave. This is 18 weeks' unpaid leave, per parent, per child, up to your child's 18th birthday: www.gov.uk/parental-leave.

I'm sorry not to be able to give more positive advice on this but it's possible this policy may change so you may want to wait and see before making any changes to your arrangements.

MaternityActionfreeadvice · 04/06/2020 17:38

@Clo2404

Hello, I work as a sales rep for a soft drinks company. My role would be to visit supermarkets. We were furloughed up until this week and now want us visiting 2-4 supermarkets per day to merchandise (taking stock from warehouse and filling shelves). I am currently 21 weeks pregnant, my employer has said it is safe to work as long as I can maintain a 2m distance from people and wear PPE that they provide. Working from home is not an option. I Would like advice if a public facing role like this, mixing with a lot of people each day is safe and the likelihood that I can maintain a safe distance from people in this environment. Supermarket staff do not wear PPE and it’s is a customers choice if they wish to wear PPE. I also don’t have information on the cleaning routines within stores. Thanks
Dear Clo2404

Thank you for your query.

This is a particularly difficult situation arising out of the easing of the COVID-19 lockdown. I’m afraid we’re not able to advise you on whether the return to work would be safe. It may be that your doctor/midwife is in a slightly better place to advise you on that, particularly if you are able to obtain the risk assessment performed by your employer. However, hopefully we are able to give you some helpful guidance on the legal position and your employer’s responsibilities.

The general advice from the Government is that ‘clinically vulnerable individuals’, which includes pregnant women, “should be offered the option of the safest available on site roles, enabling them to stay 2m away from others”. See Section 2: www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/shops-and-branches#shops-2- The current advice from the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists states that this is particularly the case during the third trimester.

This is general advice, and seeking specific advice from your doctor is prudent to guide on whether you have any additional personal health risks that you need to be aware of and bring to the attention of your employer (in addition to your pregnancy). You may also wish to inform your employer if you live with someone who is a ‘clinically extremely vulnerable individual’, as defined on the Government website.

Your employer should have carried out a specific risk assessment for you as a pregnant woman. You should point your employer to the guidance for employers on pregnant employees, indicating that it is difficult to see how your role could be complying with this, given the number of off site visits you are required to take. Government guidance is here, section 9 covers pregnant women: www.gov.uk/government/publications/staying-alert-and-safe-social-distancing/staying-alert-and-safe-social-distancing You can request a copy of the risk assessment performed by your employer so that you can properly consider the risk involved for you and the measures that they put in place to ensure that you are properly protected.

As part of this, you can request alternative work if there is any. Any work you are offered must provide facilities for pregnant employees. If suitable alternative work cannot be found, and the risk assessment does not provide the assurances that you require, then you can request either to stay on furlough leave or that you are suspended on full pay for a long as necessary.

If the company believes that your current working environment is safe and suitable, but you take the view, based on information you have received and advice from your doctor, that there is a ‘serious and imminent’ risk to your health or that of your unborn child, you can refuse to return to work. If you do, you could be protected under the Employment Rights Act 1996 from being subjected to any detriment as a result of your action. You could have an unfair dismissal claim if you are dismissed for this reason, regardless of whether you have worked for the company for two years. It does not matter whether the company deems the working environment safe – if you reasonably believe it is unsafe, and are able to demonstrate this, then you should be protected.

There is a note of caution here, which is that in order to enforce this right and potentially obtain compensation, you would need to lodge an Employment Tribunal claim. This is a difficult process, and claims in this area, as with many aspects of the COVID-19 pandemic, are uncertain and unprecedented.

Any detriment or dismissal could also be a breach of the Equality Act 2010, which is a separate claim. This is technical and would need to be properly considered, but if you are either compelled to work in an unsafe environment while pregnant, or are withheld pay (for example) for refusing to work in conditions you consider may be unsafe, then this may give rise to a discrimination claim. You should be aware that you should act quickly if you believe you have suffered a detriment, as the deadline for making a claim is three months less one day. There is more information on how to contact ACAS to start a claim here: Where-to-go-for-more-help-2.pdf

StepAwayFromGoogle · 05/06/2020 00:52

Today (4 June) my employers have announced that we are expected to return to the office this coming Monday for two days a week/three days a week on a rolling basis. They are not the same days: Monday and Tuesday one week and then Wednesday, Thursday and Friday the following week.
I have a two year old and a five year old. The five year old will be going back to school on Monday and Tuesday next week. The two year old's nursery remains closed. Wrap-around care at school is not being offered. Prior to lockdown, my Mum (73) looked after the children on a Monday all day and Tuesday morning.
Both me and my partner have been working from home around one another: I do four hours a day (50% of full time hours), my partner works six hours a day (80% of full time hours). I have just about been keeping up with my work but it has been tough to balance everything and I've been working in the evenings regularly.
Can my employer force me back into the office and/or to increase my hours under current informal arrangement with them? I would also have an additional two hours (one hour each way) commute to and from work. Apart from school 9am-3pm on a Monday and Tuesday, and then only for six weeks, we have no childcare. Nursery will reopen again at some point but even then I won't be able to switch the days that my two year old is there to fit into the rolling two week pattern my work are proposing. There are unlikely to be holiday clubs running over the summer and we can't rely on grandparents, as we would otherwise have done, to look after our five year old. Essentially that means we will be in the same situation until September.
On top of the above, one of my colleagues is leaving mid-July. My work are not replacing them and are expecting me to pick up approximately 50% of their role. I will hopefully be able to offload some of my current responsibilities but I have real concerns that I will not be able to cover all the work they are expecting me to, especially on my current hours. Similary that I will continue to be pressured to return to the office.

Dotty356 · 05/06/2020 08:09

Hello,

I am currently 22 weeks pregnant and have been on sick leave since February due to suffering with severe HG. I received an email from work saying that due to financial implications of covid that redundancies are being made. I am the only one who works in my job title and this job has been chosen as not required and therefore will be consulted for redundancy. My company have outlined who they are keeping and my job role is no longer listed and I haven’t been offered another one. I haven’t handed in my maternity request yet and I am due to return to work middle of June. Redundancies will be announced by the end of June. I’m not sure how to proceed right now. Any advice would be most welcome.
Thank you.

Danielle7732 · 05/06/2020 10:35

Hi,
I have been on maternity leave since September and it ends on June the 15th, all my employees have been furloughed expect a few who the company have asked to go back first since they are slowly opening! My employer is saying I can’t be furloughed because they can’t afford it and then said it’s because I’m on maternity until the 15th of June and the cut off is the 10th, is there anything I can do? I can’t work because my child care can’t be accessed at the moment!
Thank you

MaternityActionfreeadvice · 05/06/2020 10:42

@freshcottoncandle

Hi,

I have been on maternity for 9 months now, a little while after I started, another company took over mine. Since then I have not been kept in the loop with anything, I've been blocked and ignored by all members of staff, and have had to email multiple times to beg for clarification that I still have a job there. I have definitely had major discrimination due to being on maternity. Now I am currently shielding and have been told by my consultant to do this til at least July. Was supposed to be returning to work in July and have let work know I'm shielding. They have sent me a form to sign saying that I agree to any changes being made to my job (will not outline the changes) and if I don't sign in 7 days then that will be my resignation without any redundancy. Is this legal? I do not want to sign if I don't know what changes will be made. Thanks!

Dear freshcottoncandle

Thank you for your enquiry although it is disappointing to hear of the stress you are having to endure both during your maternity leave and the current pandemic.

The main issue in your enquiry appears to be your employers request for you to agree to a variation of your contract without proper consideration, notice or explanation of the changes or impact on you as their employee. It is not clear whether you have requested that they explain why a variation is necessary, what variations they intend to make, why these variations are necessary at this time and whether variations are also being imposed on other employees. The answers to these questions are crucial in assisting you to determine whether to accept the variation.

Any changes to your contract should be mutually agreed with the consent of both employer and employee. An employer that imposes changes to an employee’s contract without consent will be in breach of contract. This is why you have been asked to sign the variation form. In determining whether a contract variation can be imposed depends on the intended contractual changes and whether the variation is reasonable. This is a broad test. If they refuse to explain why the changes are necessary and what changes are to be imposed it is unlikely that this would be reasonable.

Whether the variations they seek to impose are major or minor also play a part in determining whether this request is reasonable. This includes a consideration of any impact or benefit to yourself such as a change in your salary or hours. If the changes imposed disadvantage you, consideration must be provided such as salary or other benefit.

You would also want to look at your original contract to see whether it contained a flexible contractual variation clause. Many employers incorporate such terms into contracts to provide flexibility in making contractual changes later, without the need for agreement. Any such right in your contract would need to be clear and unambiguous. However, the existence of such a clause in your contract would not provide your employer with an absolute defence and unfettered right to impose variations. A Tribunal would consider whether the changes are minor or major and whether they are for a genuine business reason.

I would therefore advise you to write an urgent letter to your employer requesting:
What changes they wish to impose
Why they are necessary
Why they are necessary now
Who else is subject to these variations (this will assist you in determining whether any potential dismissal is due to your maternity leave and / or shielding)
If possible send this by email so that you have a written record of your request. This should include a letter from your consultant or GP that you have been advised to shield. Depending on their response, or possibly lack of, you will need to decide whether you adhere to their variation or not.

You state that they have given you seven days to agree to the changes, failing which that will be your resignation without any redundancy. I presume that you mean they will terminate your contract by reason of dismissal, potentially claiming a failure to follow reasonable instructions. My advice is that they do not appear to have provided you with reasonable notice of the change, sufficient information to make an informed decision or provided for consideration (necessary in a contract).

Dismissal and re-engagement
If you do not agree to the variation, your employer could terminate your contract and offer to re-engage you under the new terms. This removes your employer's risk of being in breach of contract as your old contract is terminated lawfully (if proper notice is provided). In the current pandemic this is something many employers are doing, although your employer would need to show that it had a genuine business reason for making the changes. If your employer took this approach, you could potentially have an unfair dismissal claim (see below). You could also work under the new terms in protest and bring a claim for breach of contract or unlawful deduction of wages (if your salary is detrimentally affected).

Unilateral variation of contract
Alternatively, if you do not agree to the variation, your employer may try to impose the contractual variations unilaterally i.e. without agreement. This would be a breach of contract.

Please note that for a breach of contract claim, if your employment continued you would need to bring a claim in the High Court or County Court, whereas if your employment was terminated you would bring the claim in the Employment Tribunal.

If you were to be dismissed as a result of refusing to agree to the contractual changes, there are a number of claims you may be able to pursue:

  1. Unfair dismissal
If dismissed you could bring an unfair dismissal claim. It the employer states that your dismissal is for failure to follow reasonable instruction you would need two years’ service in order to bring this claim.

Your employer would have to show that it had a fair reason for dismissal and that it acted reasonably. For example, it would need to show that it had a good business reason for changing your contract and that it followed a fair process in consulting with you and the eventual dismissal.

  1. Automatic unfair dismissal (automatic)
If dismissed because you were shielding you could bring a claim for detriment/automatic unfair dismissal on grounds of health and safety. As you were in a circumstance of danger which you recently believed to be serious and imminent which you could not reasonably have been expected to avoid, resulting in you refusing to return to work when advised to shield and that in the circumstances of danger which you reasonably believed to be serious and imminent, you took appropriate steps to protect yourself from the danger.

You would not be required to have two years’ service to bring this claim as connected with health and safety.

  1. Automatic unfair dismissal and maternity discrimination
If you are dismissed for a reason connected to your pregnancy/maternity leave this would amount to automatic unfair dismissal and maternity discrimination.

There is no minimum length of service required to bring this claim.

  1. Automatic unfair dismissal and disability discrimination.
If you were dismissed and this was connected to your need to shield you may also have a disability discrimination claim. This will depend on your medical reasons for shielding and whether they meet the test as to what constitutes a disability. If your medical grounds constitute a disability, your employer would also be under a duty to make reasonable adjustments.

There is no minimum length of service required to bring this claim.

Other claims that you may be able to bring that are not dependent on your employer dismissing you:

Constructive dismissal
A unilateral variation of your contract can amount to a fundamental breach of contract. This means you could refuse to sign the new contract and resign in response to their breach. However it is not advisable to resign purely to pursue a constructive dismissal claim as these are inherently uncertain and difficult to pursue and in your situation your employer may dismiss you in any event. In a constructive unfair dismissal claim the burden of proof is on you to show that the breach was fundamental. Resigning from your role is a significant step that should not be taken lightly and requires professional advice. Should this be something you wish to consider, you should seek further legal advice before doing so.

Unlawful deduction from wages
Your employment does not need to be terminated to enable you to bring this claim, although it would depend on whether you suffer any losses as a result of the contract variation.

Maternity and / or pregnancy discrimination
In your enquiry you also mention that you have suffered major discrimination whilst on maternity leave. I am unable to say whether the treatment you have been subjected to by your employer would amount to discrimination as no details have been provided, save to say that you could bring a discrimination claim whether your employment continues or is terminated.

Transfer to new employer
You state that having been on maternity leave for nine months, shortly after your company was taken over. This appears to suggest a transfer took place under TUPE Regulations. This is where employees working under one business transfer automatically to the new business. The Regulations provide rules around contract variations following a transfer and that any changes to your terms of employment will be void if the sole or principal reason is the transfer or for a reason connected with the transfer that is an economic, technical or organisational reason entailing changes in the workplace or changes otherwise allowed under the terms of the contract. A desire to harmonise terms and conditions of employment between existing and new staff is unlikely to suffice. In light of the likelihood that the transfer took place possibly nine months ago it is unlikely that the current suggested change to your contract relates to the transfer, however not enough information has been provided and it will depend on whether other employees are similarly affected.

Compensation
Compensation you may be entitled to depends on the type of claim brought.

In an unfair dismissal claim you can receive (1) a basic award which is similar to a statutory redundancy payment based on a formula that takes account of age, length of service and the amount of a week’s pay and (2) a compensatory award which the tribunal awards on a just and equitable basis to take into account any financial loss caused to you as a result of the unfair dismissal. This includes loss of salary, pension and other benefits.

Compensation for a discrimination claim includes injury to feelings.

An unlawful deduction from wages claims would compensate you for any lost wages as a result of the contractual variation.

Time limits
Different time limits apply to the various claims set the above claims. It is important that you take legal advice on time limits and how to present a claim should you decide to pursue a claim against your employer. There is more information on where to get more help here: Where-to-go-for-more-help-2.pdf

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