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Calling Court of Mumsnet-Advice please re nannies!

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secur · 29/09/2004 12:51

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stickynote · 29/09/2004 12:53

How old are your children Secur?

littlemissbossy · 29/09/2004 12:54

Hi secur, sorry can't get this to link, but copy and paste this - info on employing a nanny, legal situation etc
Sounds like an ideal situation all round
HTH

littlemissbossy · 29/09/2004 12:54

oops forgot the important bit
www.babycentre.co.uk/refcap/541397.html

Tickle · 29/09/2004 13:00

hi - sounds like a good idea. would it be at your house? off top of head, there would be kit to buy: double buggy, extra high chair etc. Also you would need to work out who looks after the babies if one is sick (or if she is sick).

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secur · 29/09/2004 13:03

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secur · 29/09/2004 13:03

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secur · 29/09/2004 13:28

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KatieMac · 29/09/2004 13:38

If she is at your house you may not be able to claim WFTC...unless she is a home childcarer.

If you consider her to be capable of looking after two under 1 and a 2yo and you are employing her as a nanny, then as far as the disability/capability is concerned it is only your business - no-one elses.

Can the 2yo walk to school and back? if not a triple buggy or buggy board may be needed.

Good luck

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secur · 29/09/2004 13:51

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crunchie · 29/09/2004 13:58

You will not qualify for WFTC at all (except the £545 a year basic stuff) so take that into consideration.

beachyhead · 29/09/2004 13:58

are you allowed to look after five kids at once? even if she is able, isn't there a rule about how many children you can have if you are not a registered childminder??? Just something rumbling from the back of my brain somewhere..... other than that, sounds very good idea.

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secur · 29/09/2004 13:59

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secur · 29/09/2004 14:01

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sck · 29/09/2004 14:03

I think that if you are her only source of income and she spends the majority of her time inside your home then you are legally obligated to take her on as your employee. Is this your plan? Although I'm sure tha many people would just pay cash and not say anything to anyone about taxes.

Suggest you check out the ofsted website to find out what qualifies someone as a childminder. It is illegal in this country to hire someone to work in your home and pay them on a contract basis. You must take on employer resonsibilities.

Sorry if this isn't what you want to hear. I think what you propose is a good idea. I just wouldn't want you to find out later that you owe the government a whole wad of money.

However, if she took your kids back to her house... then I think she could be a childminder and responsible for her own taxes. But then I think she would have to be a registered childminder.

Of course, you always cheat and pay her in cash. Not a route I would recommend. But I'm sure people do it!

littlemissbossy · 29/09/2004 14:06

secur, the government side for childcare info is www.childcarelink.gov.uk - there's probably a local information centre near you who can give you more advice HTH

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secur · 29/09/2004 14:07

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secur · 29/09/2004 14:08

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sck · 29/09/2004 14:19

Another good source of information (if you want to be her employer) is nanny tax There a lot of information on this site... more than just payroll issues

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secur · 29/09/2004 14:22

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sck · 29/09/2004 16:01

If you are paying her (as an employee) you can ask her to do almost anything (so long as she agrees to it in the contract).

Personally, I think ironing and tidying up are fair game. But, I also think it is more important to keep a good employee happy than it is to squeeze every last bit of work from them.

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secur · 29/09/2004 16:04

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childmindersam · 29/09/2004 16:11

OK, I worked at a nursery and gave up work in June to spend some time with my ds before he started school. I too am a qualified nursery nurse and was asked by some parents to care for their children. If i had been a nanny to them they could not have claimed tax credits so i registered as a childminder. I can now care for 6 children and that includes my own son. I am only allowed to care for 1 baby under 1 BUT OFSTED do allow more if the children you care for are related so you may find this is OK for you. She will have to pay out some money to get set up but a grant is available at the moment of £250. She needs to contact her local social services and get some info. As i was qualified it only took me 10 days to register but it can take up to 3 months! I dont think her disability will have anything to do with it as OFSTED are aware of descrimination! Hope this helps! By the way i love doing childminding!!

childmindersam · 29/09/2004 16:13

OH sorry, she would only be able to care for them in HER home but can register to be a childminder in YOUR home once she is registered. She will be classed as self employed and will pay her own tax and NI. Its not as hard as it sounds!!!!!!! She will also have a contract for you both. There is lots of support and advice available for her!

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secur · 29/09/2004 16:18

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prufrock · 29/09/2004 16:48

secur - one other thing to check is your contract with the nursery - mine had a no poaching clause - I couldn't employ one of their staff within 6 months of them leaving, or I had to compensate them (3 months salary I think)