How do I work out paid annual leave?

[MerryMarigold]

I know this is the job of the company to work out, but I don't fully trust them. I only work term time, and I am part time within term time only, so I get plenty of unpaid holidays. I am trying to work out how many days holiday I should be paid for as I've worked for a year now without any paid holiday, just being paid for what I've worked. The contract did state my holiday but it was worked out wrong as they didn't take into account term time only. It's all quite a mess and I think the HR person doesn't have experience (small company) of HR, plus the owner of the company puts ridiculous pressure on the staff to be constantly making money, hence not fully trusting them to work this all out to my benefit. It will definitely be worked out to the company's benefit so I need to double check. The government website doesn't seem to cover term time only jobs. We are already on SSP, which is pretty awful to be honest.

www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights

There is a calculator on the government site.

It depends on what hours you actually work. There's a calculator here www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement.

I am in a similar boat with a term time only contract and work part time during the term (3 days) and I believe my annual leave is something like 90 hours - on mat leave at the moment so can't quite remember.

Can you tell us the following?

Number of weeks per year you work
Number of hours per week you work

The total number of holiday days a full time non term time worker gets
The number of hours per week for a full time worker

Hi. I should just get statutory ie. The government minimum so what anyone full time gets is none of my business. I am contracted to work 15 hours per week. I think there are about 13 weeks school holiday per year, but the day I come back to work may vary as school holidays don't suggests start on Friday and end on Sundayie. Incomplete weeks. Let's say I work 15 hours for 38 weeks per year.

If you know what a full time term person gets you can work out yours, thats why a pp asked you

If you want to work it out, then you need the information I asked for.

Like pp said you need to know the full time amount

For easy maths if someone working 5 days get 30 days holiday and you work 2 days, then you'll get 2/5 of that - 12 days

It's the statutory amount. The HR person uses the .gov calculator to work it out, I think. I don't know how much a ft person gets except that it would be the minimum.

How many hours is full time?

Ok 28 days is the stat minimum. How many hours a week does a full time person work?

I used government calculator based on his worked per year and it said I should get 69 hours paid per year, although this can be bank holidays. I don't mind what it is as long as I'm paid for them! So that's a nice sum if so, even if it is at minimum wage. Thanks everyone! Full time hours differ. Some people do 7 hour days and others do 8 or 9. I assume they get the same number of days off, but that if you usually work less hours, your day 's holiday is paid at less than someone who works longer hours.

His = hours worked per year

That only works for statutory minimum pay. If you ever work anywhere where full time staff get more than that, you’ll need to know how many hours is full time (it will only be one figure) to calculate your entitlement.

Do you work in a school? It can be slightly different if you do.

Sorry, just reread your OP, not a school then

Also if you are term time do you get paid an equal amount each month so your 38 weeks pay isnpsread over 52 or do you just get paid weekly for any hours you have done that week??

What are full time hours? How many per day people work is not relevant.

You work out your hours as a percentage of full time hours and you get the same percentage of annual leave

Stat minimum is 28 days per year. Full time work 5 x 52 days per year = 260 days. So you should get annual leave in the same ratio

You work 15 x 38 hours per year = 570 hours, which I work out as 69 hours, same as what you got from the website

Thanks knitter. Brie, I'm supposed to have it averaged over 52 weeks and paid per month. However, it was messed up and they worked out my monthly salary as if I was working every week! They worked out I owed them 860.00 as a result. I said, let's do it the long way round and go through the sign in sheets, all the days I've worked including extra days (which I Dursley weren't being paid, but I'm not v on top of these things). I worked out each month what I've been paid vs what I should have been paid. Actually I was seriously underpaid some months and so I end up owing them around 100.00 not 860.00! The way I worked it out included no holiday pay so that now needs to be factored in to get a real amount. I don't think I'll owe anything once that's factored in. In fact they may even owe me!

I'm not doing this job for the money, or I wouldn't be doing it hence not checking payments more closely, and it's fairly minimal money as you can imagine, basically so I can pay my cleaner now than I earn. I love the job, mostly, and do it for fun, but I don't like the way the company treat their staff. So I've started checking more closely since they said I've been overpaid! Opened a can of worms.

Wow, I think they owe me 500.00 plus in paid holidays. Now, can they quibble that I haven't booked these as holidays (because I already have holidays). There will be a few bank hols in there which not paid, but the rest... Do I need to have filled out a holiday request and taken holiday in term time?

HEEEEELP. Right, I have had some correspondence which I don't understand. Apparently, I am entitled to 5.5 days from September (they are taking it from there since I wasn't on a contract before that). They are including bank holidays, but if these fall in holiday time (ie. Christmas and New year), then I don't get paid for them. So I get 2.5 days not 5.5 days. Is this how statutory works?

If you’re not paid or bank holidays then they can’t deduct them from your holiday entitlement. If you’re paid for them but don’t work them, they can.

Thanks. I've figured out what she's done. She's worked out my allocation as if I work all year (not just term only). So that's 17 days for 3 days per week. Then she's removing all the bank holidays which fall in my holidays. I won't be paid for those. The bank holidays I would work on (actually just May day) I do get paid for. If I work it out on annualised hours I should have approx 1.5 more days paid holiday, but I can't be bothered to fight about it.