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Duff Manager - what can I do

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CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 11/07/2007 21:20

I work for local goverment and by some strange fluck I have ended up by being managed by somebody who has never done the wok I do. As a result I have to tell her everything and help her out.

How can this person develop me?

I have complained to her line manager and they agree with me but the head of dept is too afraid to rcck the boat as this 'manager' has previously made a formal complaint against him (which was investigated but unfounded)

What would you do? I really object to 'training' this person which is effectivley what I am doing

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CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 11/07/2007 22:25

God I would LOVE a beer

Bloody 40 next week and dh and friends want big celebration but I cant see point as cant have a drink and it would just be me sat there with a bottle of gaviscon watching everyone large it up!!

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FluffyMummy123 · 11/07/2007 22:26

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LeafTurner · 11/07/2007 22:26

Mmmmmm - great eh ?

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CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 11/07/2007 22:30

I know caught up earlier (thought I recognised name!)

Bloody SS are bobbins,I do a lot of work with them and thier sensitivity to these situations is much lower than ours.

I would be inclined to set up a watch group and catch her out then you could call police who I do know take this kind of thing v seriously.

I had to attend at an address lately to remove some goods and a child of 9 was home alone.The police were with me and they took action against parents.

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Twinklemegan · 11/07/2007 22:30

LT - how can you possibly judge them on their results if you don't understand their work? Or be responsible for ensuring objectives are met if you don't understand all the various pressures that are involved? I'm sorry, but having managers setting and monitoring objectives who don't actually understand the work causes more problems than almost anything else?

CP - I wonder if you work for my organisation? Your old big bad boss sounds all too like our new one.

Twinklemegan · 11/07/2007 22:31

Sorry, one too many question marks there - oops.

LeafTurner · 11/07/2007 22:32

The social worker sounded about 22 - fresh out of uni I'd say !

Ho Hum - no more I can do really, short of stalking her !

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CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 11/07/2007 22:34

.Can you belive that my employers moved this guy to another dept even though he admitted to being a bully and he the head of the Anti Social Behaviour Team!!!!

Madness

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LeafTurner · 11/07/2007 22:35

TwinkleMegan - i think you're wrong. Actually no I know you're wrong becuase I am very successful in my job. How do you judge if a plumber has done a good job ? How do you judge if a builder has ? - by the results, not by the methods ! And I have extensive monitoring in place for things like adherence to H&S leg etc.

When I started work like you I tought I had to be ale to do the job to judge it - but it just isn't true. I did a lot of filing when I was younger - just so I could understand the process - now I would judge by the results. is the file complete, papers in correct order, all forms filled in correctly etc ?

Twinklemegan · 11/07/2007 22:36

Like I said they never ever get rid of the crap ones. In our case, our new big boss likes to force people out whose faces don't fit. He is also single handedly deconstructing our section by destroying staff morale to the point that everyone, myself included, is desperate to leave. We have been through job evaluation recently and this man is abusing the review process like you wouldn't believe, and causing much distress in the process.

LeafTurner · 11/07/2007 22:37

Oh and just to say - it is really really hard to get rid of people in the public sector and it's not the culture. But there are some brave managers out there who would address tis kind of thing. Unfortunately you clearly ahve the weak old style mgt !

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CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 11/07/2007 22:37

I had some photos sent me once with a report on a crack house. From the photos you would not believe that anyone was living there (think squat for dogs) but the report revealed that there were two children 3 and 5. I rang SS who said 'they had seen worse' and they felt the children were not neglected.

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Twinklemegan · 11/07/2007 22:39

I see what you're saying LT. From my experience though, working in a highly specialised post with an impossibly huge workload, the high ups who don't understand what I do or why I do it cause me such massive problems you wouldn't believe. I've come to the conclusion that they don't actually care whether I am able to do the job properly or not, as long as I jump through the ever increasing number of hoops.

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CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 11/07/2007 22:40

Yes our current head is affectionatly known as amoeba man!!

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CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 11/07/2007 22:45

Twinkle

Its crap when you have a bully for a manager. I met big bad boss head on and others followed. It was hard but i was so incensed by the injustice and hypocrisy (crap speller - no spell check!!)of it all that I felt f*ck it I am tackling this. He crumbled.

I have always been a very upfront, honest, tell it as it is kinda girl. Thats why I know the current sitution is pressing my buttons so much. The dep head is more on side and said as long as I am professional shes no problem of me telling this new manager what I think.
At moment shes treading carefully but the time will come and its not helping that ALL her team are still coming to me rather than her!!

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Twinklemegan · 11/07/2007 22:48

Yes weak management here definitely. They're very good up to a certain level. Beyond that protectionism kicks in and it's a closed shop. Mr X and his cronies. I must say I have no wish to be a manager. I am more interested in doing the job I do very very well. I couldn't bear all the arse licking and back stabbing that goes on at my place of work, I really couldn't.

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CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 11/07/2007 22:53

Same reason I am not manager.Plus they earn £1400 a year more than me so not worth hassle.

Mr ameoba man could not copy with me on his team anyway. I always tell him what I think regardless.In fact when he started investigating big bad (he was dep then) he asked me 'do you think he is a bully' and my reply was yes and you are guilty by assocaition (ie he worked closely with him and never challenged it) Think he was quite shocked!

Anyhow Twinkle we might win the lotto on Sat !!

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MitfordSisters · 12/07/2007 19:11

The managers at my place do very little. The last one was promoted to management to get him out of harm's way, and he was running his own business whilst at work. This man took 6 weeks to organise water coolers, let alone the proverbial piss up in a brewery.

I'm currently managed by a woman who shares my skill set but has a PhD in patronisation. She serves me up my own ideas on a daily basis.

Local government is shocking that way, but I'm too much of a wimp to play with the big boys in the private sector. ANd yes, I am bitter.

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