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should I feel aggrieved over this?

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hatwoman · 02/07/2007 20:02

sorry this is long - about 3 months ago I applied for an internal job - it was a 5 month post with a possibility of it becoming permanent. I didn;t get it. I asked for feedback and was told there had been very little in it but the person who'd been given it just had the edge in terms of a certain area of experience. all fair enough. the woman who got it is pg. at the time, looking at her bump I had thought she would just about get the 5 months in before going on mat leave.

fast forward 3 months. pg woman corners me today and tells me she is DUE in 3 weeks' time. they need someone to cover the remaining 2 months of the original 5 month contract. she said they hoped I'd apply for it and that "a lot of people are very hopeful and excited" at the idea that I'll be able to cover the 2 months. and I might find myself "under pressure" to take it on.

now, I don;t, for one second begrudge her going for and getting the job. However I can;t help feeling slightly annoyed at the way they have handled things. her bosses - the people who interviewed us both - knew 3 months ago that there would be this 2 month shortfall. why did they not tell me that this was at least a possibility - even in my feedback interview when I asked what else they thought I could go for within the organisation this wasn;t mentioned. Further given that I applied and interviewed for the post 3 months ago, was found appointable, and only narrowly missed out in preference to pg woman, I don;t feel particularly inclined to go through that process again for a measly 2 months' work. Nor am I impressed by the assumption that because I wanted it 3 months ago I will be able - with 3 weeks' notice (unnecessarily short)- to rearrange my working life, including taking on 2 more days a week work, and dumping on my current colleagues who are up shit creek with one of our team off badly sick. and as it turns out I can't rearrange my life - because - in part because I didn;t know things were going to pan out like this - I have, in the interim, accepted an additional part-time job elsewhere. my current job is 3 days a week and I am now doing another 2 elsewhere - so realistically this precludes me from doing pg woman's job. And on top of all that one of the most senior bosses knows full well I am looking for other work and knows that I have been offered - and turned down - at least one other post.

so do I just politely decline or do I tell them that they're taking the piss out of one of their long-standing and - allegedly - most trusted employees? as well as her team? and arguably her family? or do I say I'll do 3 days as week - take it or leave it?

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SenoraPostrophe · 02/07/2007 20:05

god that would annoy me too.

But I wonder if there isn't some paranoia over the discrimination of pregnant women going on? have they been taken to tribunal over not giveing jobs to pregnant women in the past perhaps? perhaps they thought they couldn't tell you. or perhaps she thought she'd get all the work done in the 3 months.

maisym · 02/07/2007 20:06

I'd leave it - they have organised this badly and you shouldn't have to cover for them on this. You have your other jobs and this is a factor to consider.

hatwoman · 02/07/2007 20:30

SP - I'm not sure there's paranoia but there's certainly a solid commitment to do things by the book - which is fine. but could they really not have avoided this current situation by offering me the 2 months work when both of us interviewed for it? would that really have been against equal ops and what ever other recruitment rules they have - it's not like I hadn;t gone through a full international recruitment and they'd have been offering it me by some back door means.

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SenoraPostrophe · 02/07/2007 20:42

no, I just mean maybe they thought it would be against the rules.

but anyway without the other considerations, would you like to do 3 days a week? and will you be able to go back to your current post afterwards if it doesn't become permanent?

hatwoman · 02/07/2007 22:48

I guess I would like to do it 3 days a week, but I feel a bit reluctant in light of everything. and my poor current boss will effectively be shat upon from a very great height. they'll have to keep my job open for me. I wouldn;t get it permanently - if it becomes permanent pg woman will get it, but then I'd get all her mat leave, if that makes sense.

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purpleduck · 02/07/2007 23:06

If its a good opportunity for you, then take it. That way next time you will have the experience for the job. Although that may well be at another company!! Good Luck!

WideWebWitch · 03/07/2007 12:24

Decline, they're taking the piss imo. Or agree but on whatever terms YOU want, so more money, less hours, whatever you want. You can afford to ask for fk off money/terms given that you don't particularly want it or care if you get it and given that it's only for 2 months. Will you be able to go back to what you're doing now afterwards?

hatwoman · 03/07/2007 13:28

oh www. it's the voluntary sector. there is no such thing as fck off money!

it's coming to a head today I think. teh more I think about it the more I think that my greatest bug bear is the total lack of respect for my current work, my team and my boss. the underlying attitude is that none of that matters, I can do this at the drop of a hat.

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WideWebWitch · 03/07/2007 14:20

Ok Hat! Never mind. In which case your instinct is prob right, which is to say NO! If they couldn't think ahead 3 poxy months fgs, I'm not sure they deserve you to help them out of the situation in which they now find themselves!

chocolatekimmy · 04/07/2007 10:52

I would leave it - why go to all the trouble of rearranging your life, part time job, family etc for them.

Do you think they chose her because she was pregnant and they were too scared not to - in case she put a claim of discrimination in relation to pregnancy?

Tell them that your personal circumstances have since changed and that you are unable to accept the position.(in other words get stuffed!)

flowerybeanbag · 04/07/2007 16:24

Don't refuse it just to make a point that you are unhappy with how it was handled, if you want the job and you can do it, take it. It is always tempting to be very principled in these situations, but rarely worth it if you end up cutting off your nose to spite your face!

It sounds like you are no longer in that position however, so I would politely decline, and mention that you were disappointed and surprised that it was not mentioned to you earlier that there may be an opportunity to take the post as maternity cover, as you would have been interested.

It may well be that the other woman was offered the post in preference to you because she is pregnant - lots of employers are not very confident about their employment law knowledge and end up being over-cautious as a result.

Did they definitely know her due date at the time? You say you yourself thought she would be able to squeeze the 5 months in, maybe they assumed the same.

It is also possible they didn't mention the 2 months cover as they were hoping to be able to manage without having to cover the maternity leave.

hatwoman · 04/07/2007 19:37

flowerybeanbag - your point about cutting my nose off etc is exactly how I rationalised it in the end. I am annoyed about the handling but I do want to have a go at the job. I spoke to the senior guy today and I did say that I didn't understand why it had all happened the way it did, and I told him I can;t do it full time, and I told him that I feel very bad about my team - but not "guilty" because it's not my fault (ie it's his!) - end result was that they've agreed I can do it 3 days a week. the end result is actually pretty marvellous - I have 2 jobs that I really wanted! ok so one of them is only for a couple of months but there's a pretty high chance it will be extended to 6. I'm really chuffed. The senior guy managed to butter me up a bit (of course) by saying that he felt it was important (for the organisation) that I got this experience.

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flowerybeanbag · 04/07/2007 21:36

that's fantastic news, congratulations on a brilliant outcome, sounds like you and the organisation have both done well!

WideWebWitch · 05/07/2007 23:07

Marvellous, well done!

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