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Can you be offered a job only on condition you withdraw from all other interviews?

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pointydog · 07/06/2007 17:15

I need to make a decision fast.

I've been offered a job but only on condition I withdraw from other interviews (and I have another on Monday for a better job).

Anyone know the legal and other implications of this?

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bran · 07/06/2007 17:18

I've never heard of that before. Do they know that you have another interview or is this something they do as standard.

I would be a bit put off by this, and would worry that the company is very "controlling" and might expect loyalty to the company from me above everything else in my life (eg family commitments, taking holiday etc).

goingfor3 · 07/06/2007 17:19

I wouldn't think a company can do this. It's none of thier business if you apply for other jobs.

pointydog · 07/06/2007 17:20

They know I have another interview on Monday. I told them, was open. The other job is actually for the same local authority so I thought they wouldn't mind so much.

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pointydog · 07/06/2007 17:21

I really do want a permanent job - can't take too many risks.

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Pennies · 07/06/2007 17:22

Can I ask what kind of a company has offered you this job? Seems very odd and I'm wondering if it is a particalar industry or field of work that requires enhanced security or something.

pointydog · 07/06/2007 17:24

teaching, local authority education dept

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Hulababy · 07/06/2007 17:25

This is very common in teaching posts. Infact you often (IME anyway) have to make the decision there and then, before you even leave. If you drop out at that point, they offer to next candidate.

No idea if there are any legal stuff that prevent it.

bran · 07/06/2007 17:26

Can you ask them something by email, clarify a particular working condition or something about future career progression? Anything that they will have to go and look up and get back to you with. Then don't check your email until after the Monday interview.

Or just say that you will give them an answer on Monday after your interview as you feel it would be rude to withdraw at this late stage.

pointydog · 07/06/2007 17:28

I asked for Monday but no way. It was like they were doing me a huge favour giving me till tomorrow morning.

Hmm, hula. Not good

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pointydog · 07/06/2007 17:33

hula, so what happens if you accept then go for interview anyway and then phone to refuse first offer?

Not horse's head or anything?

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DominiConnor · 07/06/2007 17:44

There are no legal implications. I am free to offer you a job right now, and if you don't take it, tough.
I am a headhunter, and the last time a client suggested that was how we ensnared someone we wanted, I spent considerable effort persuading them not to do so.
This wasn't ethics. Because my firm only deals with smart people my expectation was that it would blow up the deal, and I wouldn't get paid.

As a pimp, I have the objective facts that you're good enough to get a job offer, and an interview for a better job.
That means your "price" in the market is higher than what you are being offered. They know this as well, and that's why they are trying to stop you.

My targets are normally banks, so when counselling others who have been in a similar position is a counter offer.
I would thus get them to say "if you offer an extra 10%, I'll say yes now".
Part of the strength of your position is that interviewing staff can be a draining process for the employers, and for all you know they may not believe that the 2nd best candidate is anywhere near good enough.

Can't say if this will work for an LA, but maybe you could ask for the next level up on whatever pay scale they use.
It can put you in a better position in two ways.
Firstly they may give you more money.
It will also buy time, since they need to go away and think about it.
Thus I'd ring them after 11 tomorrow, and put your counterbid.

pointydog · 07/06/2007 17:51

Thanks pimping dc.

Thing is, there is such a huge surplus of teachers here that they would have no problem getting someone else. Sheer number of applicants means my market price just cannot be that high. And the jobs are for the same LA so they are not 'losing' me. That's why I'm so hacked off actually.

My instinct is to say, yes I'll take the job, yes I'll withdraw from interviews, then go anyway.

The only thing I could lose is a bit of goodwill from my ultimate bosses, yes? Anything else?

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Hulababy · 07/06/2007 18:24

DH always thought it was tsrange too, but this was certainly my experience whenever I went for teaching posts. Allc andidiates turn up at same time, normally for the full day. Morning spent touring school, talking to relevant staff, maybe doing some form of presentation/teach a lesson activity. Then lunch together. Then sat around staff room all afternoon, whilst individual interviews take place. Then everyone waits for what feels like ages. Head comes out and and takes candidiates in to tell them if they have the job or not (normally starting with the person being given the job). Person offered job says yes or no there and then.

Hulababy · 07/06/2007 18:26

Not good practise to accept a job and then go back on your word, and may be a tad risky within same LEA.

Not sure there is anything they could do to stop you though.

Pixiefish · 07/06/2007 18:28

My experience is the same as Hula's.

Pointydog you asked 'what happens if you let them down'- round here your name would be mud- you'd certainly not be considered for a job in the school that you've let down and the head would tell other head's locally what you'd done.

As a teacher I spose we're meant to keep our word. If you agree to the job it's a verbal contract- if you then break your word it's breach of contract I spose.

I don't know the legalities of it- I'm only guessing

pointydog · 07/06/2007 18:38

yeah, I've changed my mind. Won't lie. But am pissed off.

This was short interview with education officers, not heads. AM getting more and more hacked off.

Appreciate advice though

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DominiConnor · 08/06/2007 18:13

What did you decide to do in the end ?

pointydog · 08/06/2007 23:36

Turned 'em down.

I gave a most eloquent, honest but very brief spiel (even if I say so myself), said I was obliged to turn the job down.

And from their interesting response I know that they know that they have done something lowly and I have acted admirably.

I quite like having moral highground. Until I'm jobless at the end of the month, that is.

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