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Are there any female Quantity surveyors out there MN?? I am 33 and want to retrain

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Truetruetrue · 28/08/2018 21:56

I have a related degree but it isn't RICS accredited. I am thinking I might need to get a post grad conversion. Do you enjoy your job? Is it worth it? I like maths, buildings and working with people. Love the idea of working in the office but also travelling to sites. Any advice for me??

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LadyLapsang · 31/08/2018 21:45

Tell me about your education and what you have done to date. Can you work in London?

Truetruetrue · 09/09/2018 00:21

Oh thank you for your reply! I have a first class degree in geography and 8 years teaching in a secondary school (so not really related to construction) though I taught some statistics modules

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Truetruetrue · 09/09/2018 00:22

And no I can't really move to London

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Pookydosa1 · 10/09/2018 11:32

You'd have to do a QS degree & get some experience, about 5 years & it's a male dominated industry because let's face it men are better at maths.

Believeitornot · 10/09/2018 11:34

it's a male dominated industry because let's face it men are better at maths

I hope you’re being sarcastic

aperolspritzplease · 10/09/2018 11:36

Men are better at maths. WTAF?!

OP - I work in the construction industry, we have loads of female surveyors coming through now but I know only one female QS. You will need to do a conversion. Where are you? Many of the big firms will employ you and then you get day release for college / uni.

elkiedee · 10/09/2018 12:05

Lots of useful info here:

www.prospects.ac.uk/job-profiles/quantity-surveyor

This suggests you will need the post grad conversion course but that your geography degree is useful and relevant. The potential employers must operate all over the country - anywhere that there is construction and development. While it seems like a big leap from teaching to surveying, I'm sure your people skills with teenagers would be useful in big project work etc too.

TheCraicDealer · 10/09/2018 12:16

I like maths, buildings and working with people. Love the idea of working in the office but also travelling to sites.

Have you thought about loss adjusting? The skills involved are very much like the kind of things you're interested in. I know one two QS's, both adjusters. The chartered one is female and very good. You wouldn't necessarily need to retrain if you have a degree in a related area, although there are professional exams that most firms expect you to work towards. Have a look at the CILA careers website and see if it appeals.

Truetruetrue · 10/09/2018 20:56

Thanks for all your replies. I haven't thought about loss adjusting, but I will look into that, thanks @thecraicdealer.
I have done some research, and it's my understanding that I can do a 1 year course at uni to be RICS qualified, or join a firm that puts you though it. I imagine it is male dominated, but I was hoping for some positive stories! (Not blatant sexism... Hmm)

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Truetruetrue · 10/09/2018 21:00

Thanks for the link @elkiedee, great info, I feel confident I would have lots of transferable skills, I am a successful teacher in a challenging school Smile but I'm ready for a new challenge. I just wish I knew someone who did the job to give me some insight before I dive in

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LivingDeadGirlUK · 10/09/2018 21:09

I work in construction and have met quite a few female QS, a lot I met through the Women in Property group so that might be a good place to go for advice as they are nationwide.

elkiedee · 10/09/2018 21:26

Could you write to relevant companies asking if anyone working in a quantity surveyor or related role could talk to you, and expressing particular interest in women or career changers.

The RICS website includes downloadable PDFs of a Building Surveying Journal published bimonthly. October-November 2017 is one on education, careers and training:

www.rics.org/uk/news/journals/building-surveying-journal/building-surveying-journal-octobernovember-2017/

LadyLapsang · 22/09/2018 11:22

The gender mix is improving especially among the younger cohort. The challenge appears to come when combining motherhood with work. So many of the senior male partners / associates have partners that didn't work when their children were young or worked part time or in very family friendly roles so they were free to concentrate on their career. I am thinking about top London firms with foreign travel and long hours, always on culture. If you don't have children, you have a partner who is an equal at home / childcare, or you become senior enough to employ a nanny, there are great opportunities and the salary compares favourably with SLT in a secondary although conditions may not always be as good as the Red Book.

eaglefly · 26/09/2018 13:16

I have a family member who is quite senior in a very well known QS firm. We are always having discussions about how the company and industry are doing a lot to attract women to this profession. He also sits on the diversity board. Don't worry about historical male domination. Just go for it.

weebarra · 26/09/2018 13:20

DH is a building surveyor - he'd probably say that QSs are a dying breed but he's been saying that for years! A lot of the big firms are male dominated and DH has faced some resistance to us being an equal partnership - in that he has an equal responsibility to pick up sick children from school etc.
He's a director now so has more flexibility.

Shhhbabyno5 · 26/09/2018 13:32

Hi,

I am a female quantity surveyor. I have worked in the industry since I was 18 (now 40) and have recently returned to work after a career break post family.

It is very much male dominated industry and the sexism did become all very tedious once I had my children, hence the career break.

That being said I was fairly senior when I took the break so it didn’t necessarily hinder me.

My husband is a director of a construction company and they are making very positive steps in attracting and retaining women in all roles of construction. So it does appear that the culture is shifting.

If you enjoy maths and construction I’d say you would enjoy it. It can be very interesting and rewarding. The split between office and site is definitely a plus.

I don’t know what retraining you would have to do. I did my degree after a levels, however if there’s anything else you’d like to ask me feel free Smile

QsGal · 03/10/2018 19:40

I’m a QS working for a main contractor and have been for about 11 years. I joined the company when they were targeting non-cognate graduates (my degree is in Geochemistry) but this was during a recruiting drought so there was a big push for encourage people from all backgrounds.

One thing to consider is if you will be a site based QS as this has a massive affect on work life balance. I’m currently commuting 70 miles each way taking around two hours which has made childcare very difficult. I only work three days a week but will be upping that shortly as the work loads can be intense.

I find the majority of my day to day work is managing and dealing with subcontractors so if you go into this role you need to be ok with confrontation. It can be very stressful and challenging.

However, on site you will often find that it’s a work hard play hard type atmosphere and with the right team it’s great. It’s still rude, sweary, crude, inappropriate and very, very funny. This part of the job I love.

If it’s a bad project everything can be a battle.

I’ve been on sites where I’ve been the only woman, so you need to be ok with working with all men. I’ve not really come across a lot of sexism but have certainly progressed slower than my male counterparts.

I’m very lucky that I work to a very supportive region but the gender pay gap report for his company rates us one of the lowest so they still have a long way to go.

It’s also a very reactive industry to the economy and I have been put on redundancy notice several times. Luckily as QS’s there is usually work in the office you can do to help win work but when things are very quiet (Brexit I’m looking at you) everyone is at risk and there is no security.

I honestly don’t know whether I recommend it as a career (sitting in a shitty pub missing bedtime because I have to lodge as the commute is killing me) but there are definitely positive aspects of the work. Some of my projects are regularly used on promotional material and like childbirth, eventually you forget the pain.

I suspect though at some point my needs won’t have match with the business needs and I’ll have to call time. PQS work is an option but it’s a very different role.

Sorry for the long post! It’s definitely possible to be a QS with a non-cognate degree. I’m not chartered as to be honest after several years on the role I just couldn’t be arsed and it hasn’t held me up. Being part time has.

Good luck!

Truetruetrue · 04/10/2018 21:30

Just seen all the replies. Thank you so much everyone, it's so good to hear from female QSs and other roles in the construction industry. It's given me a lot to think about, I really appreciate hearing all the pros and cons. I'm going to follow up on some of your advice Smile

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