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Big 4 Interview , Cyber Security

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marinariv · 30/07/2018 15:30

Any mums who currently work for one of the big 4 firms specifically the one beginning with D. I would appreciate any comments on what the working conditions are like, specifically as I have three young children under 5 and will potentially be starting on the graduate scheme for cyber security. I can imagine it will be pretty demanding and I am worried that I wont be able to keep up.

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kimber83 · 31/07/2018 11:15

Answer from a colleague who’s worked in a similar function at a big 4 in a previous life (now left, so may be skewing things here):

“there’s no way that would be viable. I’m assuming she’s not in a support role though. If your friend is joining as a grad, that means Analyst level – and those are the worker bees of the practice. There’s full time chargeable client project work, practice development time in your spare hours (or beach time) - then bid support work if you’re really good and want promotion… weekly example being: it’s 7pm & there’s a critical bid whose final decks haven’t been approved by the Partner that needs to be submitted by 10am tomorrow, and he’s only available after 10pm tonight? Welcome to a lost evening and early morning! I lost count of the weeks where I didn’t eat dinner with _ for several nights running.
There is some downtime if you’re on the beach, but cyber consulting (in fact any sort of client facing consulting) just isn’t realistic if you have caring responsibilities for three kids.

There’s a reason all the women I know either left for industry roles (like me), got a fulltime nanny or had stay at home dads.

Of course, in all that, I’ve assumed she’d be based at a home office near where she gets client work… many many of the people I worked with were based in client offices across the UK and even further… so that meant (as the norm).. up at 4am Monday for a 6am flight, on site all week at the client office (working late) to Thursday, head home around 3-4pm, get home around 10pm-11pm Thursday night, “work remotely” on Fridays… so basically a minimum of 100+ hour work week commitments on a GOOD week.
This wasn’t unusual or during busy season, this was at the core minimum of what our staff were expected to do.. nearer deadlines or if you had particularly brutal travel arrangements it would be even more. It was all or nothing. I’ve heard _ is better but don’t know anyone who has worked there recently who could verify that.

My advice is not to even try and compete at that type of role when you have 3 kids – OR do it with a solid practical plan (fulltime stay at home dad who covers ALL household related chores) AND ideally have a well thought out exit plan (stay for 2 years to leap up in the experience stakes, but know that it’s a short term personal sacrifice for long term career gain).”

blackeyes72 · 31/07/2018 13:54

I am in a senior leadership role in cyber. It is not for the faint hearted and it's burnout type role. Having said that, I have four children lol

It's different though for me as I can delegate but I am pretty much available 24/7 even during my leave. I have seen many people burn out and I do have a hands on DH although my children are older (2 at senior school and 2 at junior school). I am not sure I could have done it when they were toddlers (was in a different role back then).

My advice would be to go for it, if you get the job you can try it out, get a nanny and see if that works out. You can always hand your notice in if it doesn't work for you.

AlexaAmbidextra · 31/07/2018 22:16

Just out of curiosity, why say big 4 and beginning with D rather than just saying Deloitte.

marinariv · 02/08/2018 00:30

Thank you for all your responses . Kimber83 what you friend said is kind of exactly what I expected. I have young children and would like to see them, my DH works full time also, and I am not sure we could afford a nanny. I am actually currently a teacher and desperate to leave, I have a background in engineering and can program, so when I saw this role or though graduate entry I thought it might be interesting, but having read more about working for the big 4 it doesn't seem like something I can do with young children. Blackeyes72 kudos to you with four kids, I will do the interview, but do feel quite disheartened now, I wish I had gotten into a career like this pre children, it's hard to make a move into a career which is also child friendly.

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marinariv · 02/08/2018 00:31
  • there doesn't seem to many careers that are child friendly, teaching is supposed to be, but I find it the complete opposite.
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AmberNectarine · 16/08/2018 02:31

Late to this but i have two kids and find that firm to be the most flexible firm on the market.

If you get the work done, they're pretty decent about when you do it.

fabulousathome · 16/08/2018 08:16

Why not try ACA accountancy with the same firm? Not audit as you will be sent to far flung clients, but tax.

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