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P45 Questions about it, please answer I need to know by tomorrow

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Linnet · 27/05/2007 23:20

I apologise in advance for the fact that this is very long, but please bear with me

Dh got a new job at the end of March. His boss at his old job apparantly informed head office that Dh was leaving and DH was told that his P45 would be with him soon.

It never arrived and never arrived, dh now started at his new job. Old boss leaves old workplace, assistant manager in old workplace promises to chase up the P45, then he also leaves the company.

Still no P45, it's getting beyond a joke now the NEW boss says that he has contacted head office who have said it's in the post. Dh doesn't believe him and gets the NEW Assistant Manager to phone them, which he does only to find that he can't get through as it's a holiday in England and office is shut. So he gives DH the numbers for head office.

DH finally gets through to them the next day only to find out that they have no record of him leaving the company and he's still on the books! The lady on the phone will not accept any info from DH so he has to go back to old workplace again and get the Assistant manager to call them back and give them all info etc, just so he can get his bleeding P45!

Ok, so if you're still with me after all that ranting I have a question or two.

The P45 has now finally arrived in the post, it has the date of leaving the old company as a date in the middle of MAY which is when dh was finally able to get through to someone at head office.

Will this have any implications with the tax office seeing as he started his new job at the end of March and has been paid twice since then from the new company?

Also is a P45 relevant to the tax year in which it is produced?

It has on it a figure of total pay to date which is £XXX but dh left his old employer before the end of the last tax year. Once the new tax year started there was one more payslip from his old employer and it wasn't for the amount that is shown on the P45, it's for less. and no other pay has gone into his account from the old employer. So what would this figure relate to?

If anyone has understood any of this or is indeed still awake, thank you and well done.
And if you know the answers to the questions thank you also.

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SaintGeorge · 27/05/2007 23:27

If the P45 is dated May then presumably it should only show earnings from April-May (ie that payslip) and those figures would be relevant to his new employer. I would query it though if the figures are not those on the payslip and check if it correct.

They might have dated it as a copy made in May, of figures up to March, in which case it is now not relevant to new employer.

They also owe him a P60 to show all his figures for the tax year 2006-07.

When he gets his P60 he can send it to his Tax Office with a covering letter to get his tax for the year checked. Since his old employers don't sound too sure of what they are doing, it might well be worth checking.

SaintGeorge · 27/05/2007 23:28

Sorry, should have said.

Relevant date in April is the 5th. New Tax year starts on the 6th.

islandofsodor · 27/05/2007 23:32

Well if the P45 hadn't been issued before the end of the last tax year then he should have had an end of year P60 which shows his total pay for the last tax year.

If he had a payslip from his old employer after the start of the new tax year then that might explain why his P45 is dated later, they can't issue one until they have no more to pay him otherwise it would go on an emergency tax code.

Do any of the figures match at all. His payslip might be for less because national insurance may have been taken off, also was he in a company pension etc. However the gross amounts and tax deducted amounts should match.

Once his new employer has his P45 then things will even themselves out, they will now be able to put him on the proper tax code and the tax he has overpaid so far through being on basic rate should be paid back to him.

SlightlyMadSlug · 27/05/2007 23:37

If it is dated may though and he started a new job in March (i.e. up to 3 months apparently working for 2 companies) will he not get stung for tax on the apparently second income?

These are all questions which I don't know the answers to but that I would ask if it were me. So over to the rest o fMNwho do know what I am talking about.

islandofsodor · 27/05/2007 23:41

If you have two jobs for a time you pay basic rate tax on one and get your personal allowance on the other. However you get what you have overpaid back, either at the end of the tax year if the two jobs continue throughout the year, or through going on the correct code when the first job ends, the tax tables balance it out.

PinkTulips · 27/05/2007 23:42

over here you can go to the tax office and get it from there. can you do that in england? it should be accurate as they'll have the dates you were taxed for on the system

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