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I'm being discriminated against at work and I'm gutted

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Moomin · 26/05/2007 09:35

Sorry - this is long so bear with me.

I'm a secondary Eng teacher and I've been at my present school 10 years in Sept. I started as 2nd in dept then went p/t (3 days a week) after having dd1. The Head at the time was very supportive of part-timers and he let me keep my management pay for other duties as I didn't want to do the 2nd on dept at the time.

Whilst on mat leave for dd2 last year a new Head was appointed. He used to be the Dep Head and was popular with most people but known for being 'a Man's Man' or as we call it, Bertie Big Bollocks (sexist pig in other words) but I'd always got on well with him and wasn't wary about him being the new boss. After my mat leave with dd2 I decided to go down to 2 days for 1 year, so that's what I've been doing since last June.

Over the last year I feel like I've got my 'MoJo' back at work: I feel really motivated and I've done LOADS - not just the duties I'm paid for but lots of extra work as well. My HoD is really chuffed with me and said I'm doing more on 2 days than the present 2nd in dept does in 5! It's always been my intention to go back to 3 days from this SEpt. Recently the HoD told me that the 2nd in dept is relinquishing his responsibilities as he doesn't feel he can do the job properly anymore. After he'd gone to tell the Head this, we spoke and he told me that the Head asked him to stay on in the role for another year as there was 'no-one suitable tle to do the job' in our dept. I was really surprised to hear this as the HoD had said I was ideal and I sincerely believed I could do the job, even on 3 days a week. I really wanted the Head to think about asking me to do the job but I couldn't get an appointment with him, so I decided to send him a letter. It was handwritten, very informal but written from the heart and sincere. It said that I was passionate about the job and I listed all the stuff I'd done over the last year that had helped develop the department and the other staff (I'm a mentor to the 3 NQTs in the dept). I said I really hoped he's reconsider his decision to keep things the way they were, as I was really keen (and the bloke relinquishing the post was definitely NOT!).

SO I posted the letter and waited.... this was 3 weeks ago and I kept seeing the HEad round school and each time he saw me he'd promise to catch up with me 'later' but never did. I made an appt but he cancelled it. SO I made another one this week and went in to see him. HE had one of his deputies (female) in the room (as a witness I suppose) and although I wasn't sure he'd ened up giving me the job, I thought it would be at least a chance to discuss my future and what management role I might work towards over the next few years.

HE started the meeting with "The trouble with you women that go off and have your maternity leave and then come back part-time is that you think you can have it all - and you can't". I was gob-smacked. He spent the next half an hour telling me that he would never employ a part-timer as a middle manager in my subject area (even though there are p/t HoDs elsewhere in the school); he wasn't going to change his mind; I was wrong and disrespectful to have sent him that letter; my extra work ws 'irrelevant' and didn't mean I could do a good job as 2nd in dept; part-timers in teaching are never ideal as they let the pupils down due to split classes; part-timers caused him a lot of inconvenience because they aren't always there when he wants them.... and so it went on.

The deputy just sat there throughout and didn't say anything. I was just in shock!!!! I think I actually held my own throughout quite well, as I answered every point he had with a good reason why he was wrong, but he was obviously really annoyed 1) for me being so impertinent in his mind for writing the letter 2) with part-timers and 'women like me' in general.

Fcking OUTRAGEOUS!!!! I spent the next day crying after the impact had sunk in. I also rang my union who told me it was a 'blatent' case of discrimination and I have to send them my notes (I write it all down when I got home). I was very scared thinking about starting a case though.

Then the next day in school I was summoned to his office with an official type letter. He'd obviously had some legal advice and was told he's been well out of line so he'd changed his tack completely and said that, shoukd the job be advertised I was welcome to apply and the decision would be made on the calibre of the candidates, not their hours. He was obviously shitting himself as he knew he'd acted very irresponsibly but he spent the whole meeting trying his best to undo the damage and try to get me to agree to 'draw a line under the whole thing' and start afresh. I spent most of the meeting crying and felt much weaker than in the last meeting. And I feel GUTTED that the job I love is now not what I want. No matter what he said in the 2nd meeting, I now know what he thinks of me as a part-timer and that my work can never be good enough for him. I don't want to work for someone like that, even though I love my colleagues and the kids. I feel so screwed up now. I@ll still write it all donw and send it to the union but I really don't know what to do now. It's too late to get another job for next eyar now.

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hatwoman · 26/05/2007 12:29

xenia - no-one said that he has a legal obligation to make the job part-time. you;re right that his legal obligation is to consider requests seriously. starting meetings with "The trouble with you women that go off and have your maternity leave and then come back part-time is that you think you can have it all - and you can't". indicates a pretty blatant failure to meet that legal obligation. and, although, I'm no expert on discrimination law I should think that a criticism that starts with "you women" is a pretty blantant example of discriminatory bullying. Can you imagine if an employer used such a phrase to talk about any other group?

Moomin · 26/05/2007 12:34

Good point hatwoman. He's shot himself in the foot big-time.

How can I let it be known I've registered a case with the union (so as to keep him on his toes as far as my treatement and the treatment of others goes) without risking any negative comeback?

He's good mates with the union rep for my union . My friend saw the Head talking intently to him the night of the 1st meeting. He could have just been asking where he stood legally but I wouldnt put it past him to have asked the rep if I'd come to him (I didn't as I was at home the next day and phoned the regional office). Maybe I should update my rep at school then the HEad knows if he asks? Surely the rep has to watch himself too - he can't risk his professional standing by discussing things about menbers with the Head can he, even if it's not specific details?

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GrandMasterHumphreyLyttelton · 26/05/2007 12:38

ARe you obliged to tell him you've registered the case? I'd be inclined not to, in the hope he would be lulled into a false sense of security and shoot him self in the other foot or, better still, his famously big bollocks.

Is your union rep obliged to keep it confidential? I would avoid dealing with the Head's pal, I think, and continue to deal with the regional office. Tell them you'd prefer it that way as you don't wish to compromise your rep's position.

Moomin · 26/05/2007 12:54

Good plan Humphrey. Yes, will do that. I've spoken to a couple of my friends at work too (2 of them are p/t and in managerial positions). One of them found that he recently scheduled interviews for a new teacher in her dept on her day off. When she pointed this out he said 'Oh, come on - you can put the baby into nursery can't you?' When she stood her ground he was forced to change the interview day and was not pleased.

...and then he told me about it in the 1st meeting (mentioning no names but she told me about it afterwards) to illustrate his point that he is incinvenienced by part-timers and the hours they work

God he's such a tosspot. and I used to really like him

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Judy1234 · 26/05/2007 13:02

Sorry, yes, hatw, clearly he's shot himself in the foot over this.

Although I bet he was really pleased he got m in tears all the way through the meeting. Really prove his view of women workers etc.... He sounds like a nasty piece of work but also incompetent.

The union say it is blatant sex discrimination so presumably when you apply for the job if it's advertised you'd have a better chance of getting it now because if you don't you could use all this against him.

Moomin · 26/05/2007 13:09

I know, I so wish I hadn't cried, but what can you do? I did it so there;s not point regretting it. Won't be happening again though if I can help it. [Moomin has tear ducts surgically removed in time for start of next half term]

Bastard

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tribpot · 26/05/2007 13:28

What a wanker. There was someone at our work (allegedly) who was disgruntled because one of his very experienced and competent female staff used to work from home once a week for childcare reasons (I think to avoid the long commute, she wasn't looking after the kids during work hours). So he would email her and say "I have printed off my review comments [or whatever] and put them on your desk". Every time she worked from home. So she'd have to phone him and beg him to send her a copy of the file.

Hope you get the job!

ebenezer · 27/05/2007 11:33

Sounds like he's messed up big time in how he dealt with this, which is inexcusable. Just as an aside (and this is a general point really, cos it sounds like you are an excellent teacher who gets the best out of your students moomin) but I think there ARE genuine issues about part time jobs. I teach in a school where there are some P/T middle managers and to be honest, it does have a negative impact in some ways. Basically, you're often running Dept of fulltimers when you're not there all the time yourself. And my biggest issue with P/T teaching is that unless you are prepared to be totally flexible in you work times, then the students can end up getting a raw deal with split teaching classes. It can also be unreasonable on teaching colleagues if they're expected to take on split classes. These can be genuine reasons for turning down part time work requests. However, as i say, I'm making these points as a general comment, because it's a misconception that the law says parents have an automatic right to work part time. In your case, Moomin, it looks like you have a strong case based on the last few years.

Moomin · 27/05/2007 14:53

I take on board what you're saying ebenezer, and I think in some cases what you say is spot on. However, in our dept we've been at pains to only split classes where absolutely necessary and/or where we can see a benefit. Attainment is actually well up in the classes we've shared this year and we've enjoyed it. The only things the kids have complained about is that they get confused about their books and which ones are for which teachers so we're going to review the system for next year.

I've spent ALL morning (4 hours so far) outting my case toegther for the union. It's made me really depressed to see it all written down and see what a mug he's taken me for

Also found out yesterday that he said to a bloke who is now on senior management whose wife had a baby a week last Friday, when the bloke came into sort out his paternity leave: 'WEll if OFsted want to come in, you'd better make yourself available, paternity leave or not'. Outrageous!!!

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ebenezer · 27/05/2007 18:45

That is an absolutely outrageous thing to say, and as far as I'm aware that IS against employment laws, because I thought the two weeks paternity leave was now a right, as opposed to flexible working, which is something an employee can request. I guess if he carries on like this he'll get his come uppence very soon.

Judy1234 · 27/05/2007 20:17

He sounds like he's going to get into big trouble speaking like that. Some environments there is a lot of sexism and even women crticial of men banter, rough and tumble, very forceful trading floor stuff which shouldn't go on but people deal with it and give as good as they get. Teaching is not supposed to be like that, is it?

Yes paternity leave is an absolute right if you're an employee. he will probably say it's a joke but that's not good enough. My ex husband was told once he couldnt' have a pay rise because I earned too much by his head master and his female colleagues were allowed home early to see to chidlren and yet he who was the person of the two of us who had to get home first for the nanny, just because he's male was assumed always to have to take on the late stuff. These people need to be told what the rules are and stick to them.

hatwoman · 28/05/2007 15:31

yes I know someone who casually said to his boss, when his twins were less than a year old, that his wife was finding it tough and he might request some unpaid parental leave. his boss said "I wouldn;t advise it". (ie he wouldn;t advise even making the request) there really are some tossers out there!

luciemule · 28/05/2007 15:42

I would write everything out in a clear letter and send it to the Governors. Explain that you really want the job and outline your reasons for wanting it and state what you've done for the dept.
State clearly what the head said and how he reacted afterwards etc and say how the 2nd deptuty reacted to his behaviour.
I know you've told the union but I'd formally write to the governors too.

Moomin · 29/05/2007 13:20

lucie - do you work at a school or are you a governor? what would the governors do? How would I be regarded doing that? I did think about doing this and I spoke in confidence to a governor who I am friendly with (didn't give him all details, just said I might have a grievance with the Head - he said go through union first). I will ask the union if this would be advisable.

I went to see a friend yesterday who had some good advice for me:
Be careful who I tell about this as I want to keep the moral highground and the less people who have the chance ot question or judge me without knowling all the facts, the better.
Definitely make the complaint official, not just 'lodge' the complaint with the union and/or governors, as I can't trust the Head anymore and I need the grievance as a kind of guarantee that I'm not discriminated against again or in case he tried t make my life difficult in any way.

I'm not actually too scared that he will retaliate in any way as I know I'm in the right and I have behaved above board - he's not nothing on me, and any further unprofessionalism on his part will be recorded by me. I might be naive but I think it's not worth his while to pick on me in any way. The local LEA would not look on his conduct favourable as well: as Xenia said, this is just not what you expect in teaching; it's usually very 'pc' and extremely supportive of women and others who might experience discrim on grounds of colour/religion/sexual orientation etc. My LEA is especially well-known for being fiercely pc. (am I being naive?)

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luciemule · 29/05/2007 15:09

Hi Moomin - no not a teacher or governor - just thought that's what I'd do in your case but yes, you're right about lodging an official complaint first and they'll get to see any complaint anyway I would have thought.
I definitely think you should make it as formal as possible - the Head seems a bit weird to me and the whole 'tounching your arm thing and saying see I'm not a complete beep am I? Was well creepy and most unprofessional.

Good luck - women in teaching (and hopefully I'll be a teacher in a couple of years time) shouldn't be made to feel like you have been.

Moomin · 29/05/2007 17:03

Well we were always fairly 'pally' before this all kicked off. We played in the school band together before he became Head and he was much more approachable and a good laugh when he was deputy. I think since he's become Head he's lost the plot a bit and is paranoid that people don't respect him given his past so I think he doesn't want people to think he's a pushover just because he used to be the life and soul. He's being very shortsighted, as people are a bit more grown-up than that I think. and so I think the arm-touching is a throw-back to the 'old days' when we actually got on very well but he's barking up the wrong tree I'm afraid - he really can't have it both ways (just like I can't have it all ways, being woman and all that )

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motherinferior · 29/05/2007 17:09

Moomin, nothing to add except the urge to go and bite him.

luciemule · 29/05/2007 17:12

Ah -that probably explains it then Moomin. He's probably finding it tricky staying friends and being the most authoritative person in the school. He's probably finding hard to balance friendshsips/work relationships etc.
Still no excuse about the job though.

Moomin · 29/05/2007 17:33

Thanks MI for the biting offer
Good luck luciemule in your efforts to become a teacher - don't let this put you off; most people you work with in teaching are some of the best people you'll ever meet (and that includes the kids)

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Moomin · 29/05/2007 17:33

Thanks MI for the biting offer
Good luck luciemule in your efforts to become a teacher - don't let this put you off; most people you work with in teaching are some of the best people you'll ever meet (and that includes the kids)

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Moomin · 29/05/2007 17:33

ooops

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Moomin · 04/06/2007 20:32

Well it's back to work for me tomorrow and I've been fine about it all up to now. sent all my evidence off to the Union at the end of last week (it took me ages in half term to type it all up and make it all coherent) and am hoping to hear from them in the next few days.

JUst been sitting here trying to get some work done , check my emails, for work etc. and I feel sooooo pissed off now - like I really can't be arsed with any of it. I've got emails from colleagues asking me to attend meetings; my mentees asking for help wih this that and the other and I can't get enthused about any of it. and that pisses me off because it's not my colleagues' fault and I shouldn't be taking it out on them. IT's my birthday tomorrow as well and I bought all the traditional cakes and biscuits for break time and I was looking forward to seeing everyone as they always make a fuss of birthdays. and now I'm dreading it. Am I just being pathetic and rubbish?

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