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Career change ideas for a solicitor???

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Justagirll · 02/05/2018 12:00

Hi everyone - thought I'd appeal to the Mumsnet hive mind for help with a tricky situation.

Some background: my partner and I have recently gone through some pretty big changes in our life. We have just bought our first house after saving up for years, but in order to get a decent-sized place for our money we decided to move away from London and relocate to my partner's hometown. Neither of us could have commuted to our old workplaces from here, so we both quit our old jobs before we moved house just over a year ago. The nature of my own profession meant it was practically impossible for me to find another similar job, so I've gone freelance and set up my own business working from home, which so far is going OK.

The problem, though, isn't me - it's my partner.

He is a solicitor and was really lucky in finding a new job that's well-paid and in a handy location near our new home.

At first we thought we'd struck gold and he was really excited about the new opportunity, but it soon became apparent that the new job was going to be a lot more difficult and stressful than his previous one (he used to work in the public sector so it was quite different, but not as well paid). Now, a year on, he's saying that he took his old job for granted and didn't realise how easy he had it - despite a ridiculous commute every day which left him with no free time, he at least enjoyed the work and found it challenging in a good way, without being too stressful. With the new job, he was basically drafted in to help a busy and understaffed department, and they're also trying to attract and retain new clients, so he spends a lot of his time trying to satisfy unreasonable demands from clients who don't understand how busy he is and just doesn't have enough hours in the day to get everything done on his own. Even though his commute is now just a few minutes, he's stressed and sad every night when he gets home (often stupidly late) and has started to dread going into the office each morning as he knows he's likely to be shouted at by clients for not getting things done quickly enough for their liking. He doesn't have much help from the rest of his department as they are all based in other offices and are equally overworked themselves. They had promised that they were hiring a new person, but it's likely that even if this new person does materialise, my partner will end up even more stressed as he'll be expected to train them and supervise them and it probably won't help much even in the long run as there will still be far too much work even between two of them.

So basically he's been wondering for a while now about changing careers. He knows that if he simply looks for another solicitor position it probably won't be any easier than this one. It's not the firm or even the particular role that's the problem - I think he's come to realise that the whole profession is stressful and he has come to the point in life where he just wants out; wants to do something he actually enjoys; wants an easier life.
I do worry that he might end up just as unhappy in another career too, as surely any job can turn out different to what you imagined - the grass is always greener, etc. - but at the same time I can't just sit by and watch him continue in this job that is clearly destroying him as a person. It affects our relationship too, as when he's stressed about work he tends to snap at me easily and then I of course get upset.

He has hobbies such as gardening and outdoor pursuits that he'd absolutely love to turn into a career, but, like most people, he can't afford to just jack it all in and do something like that for love and no money. With me being newly self-employed, we are relying on his high income to pay the bills and mortgage. If my business becomes more successful over the next few years then we might be in a more flexible position, but for now it would be impossible for him to drop down to a low income job. I just don't think he can hold out much longer in this job without going crazy.

So, without wishing to ask for the impossible (and to be honest it's been useful for me to just write all of this out, so I won't be too disappointed if nothing comes of this!), has anyone else been in a similar situation? Or can anyone think of other decent career options for my disenchanted solicitor???

Yours hopefully,
Just A Girll

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Mosaic123 · 03/05/2018 09:04

How about tutoring students for law exams from home? He could combine this with gardening for others.

Justagirll · 03/05/2018 10:27

Hmmm... That does sound like something he might enjoy actually - trouble is, I imagine it would take time to set up and find clients, so it would be a while before it would earn him a decent income - so he'd have to do it on the side, at least to begin with, otherwise we literally couldn't afford to live if he just quit his job and tried to start up something like this from scratch... And I can't see how he'd find any time to build up a new business alongside his current job :(

I will definitely suggest it though as it still might give him some hope for the future - could be something to consider if and when I can get my own business earning enough to help out a bit more with the bills.

Thank you so much!

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AllyMcBeagle · 03/05/2018 10:33

Is it possible to reveal roughly where you are located (eg nearest big city?). I have a couple of ideas but they depend on location a bit.

You could PM if you prefer.

PersianCatLady · 03/05/2018 10:35

Forgive me if this is a rubbish idea but could be contact the exam boards and mark law exam papers while he is getting histutoring business off of the ground?

HundredMilesAnHour · 03/05/2018 12:42

In the interim, could he take some steps to manage his stress levels? (mindfulness, meditation, etc). I'd also suggest on brushing up his client management skills (even by doing something as simple as reading up about working with difficult people) and time management.

It sounds like his problem is the pressure and faster-paced environment rather than actually the work as a solicitor. Is that the case? The challenge is that if you want the big bucks of the private sector, in 99% of cases that means pressure, stress and a fast pace. You either have to learn to adapt by more effective time management, being clear with clients about expectations/commitments, managing your own stress - or you have to get out. It sounds like he wants out but 1) he hasn't really tried to adapt his working style and 2) you want his high salary. You may have to make a hard choice here. Less money for less pressure or more money for more stress. You can't have it both ways.

JeanMichelBisquiat · 03/05/2018 12:49

Legal publishing, but the professional support side of it - companies like PLC/Lexis Nexis are worth looking at. They pay more lawyer than publishing end of the spectrum, and (certainly used to) offer some pretty flexible working.

JeanMichelBisquiat · 03/05/2018 12:50

Also look at government legal service, which iirc used to be v flexible on home working.

aaarrrggghhhh · 03/05/2018 12:59

So hes in a private firm? Tell him to go in-house - its a no brainer - pay likely to be as good (maybe a little bit less) - there will be some stress but nowhere near as much as private practice.

Go for a big company who has a big enough legal budget that they outsource anything major/complex.

When he does go in-house he will need to let go of trying to get everything right etc - its a different mindset.

Public sector lawyer is a happy bubble and it won't be like that - but it will be a happy medium.

Then longer term he can work out what else to do - or more likely make sure his work/life balance is okay so that he can have hobbies that fulfil his other interests.

Being a lawyer SUCKS.

Justagirll · 03/05/2018 18:44

Wow, thanks so much everyone. I have only just looked at my personal emails after a busy day myself and was surprised to see so many replies!

@AllyMcBeagle, we're near the south coast. I don't really want to say more than that in case the information gets into unwanted hands but if that's still not specific enough I can PM you!

I'm going to try and talk through these options with the boy and see what he thinks.

THANK YOU all once again for weighing in!

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Mybabystolemysanity · 03/05/2018 18:54

Just a word of encouragement if he's considering a radical change and going into self employed gardening. (I know he's probably not, but even so...)

I went self employed after 15 years in the horticulture industry. I can't believe the amount of demand for good gardeners in my area. If you're tidy and quick and don't charge extortionately, I think it's quite possible to make a decent living. Not solicitor money by any means, but I would think £30k full time on a mixture of domestic and contract work (I only do contracting in a very small way now because it's lucrative and I keep having babies).

Maybe not for now, but if he really wants to have a total change I think he might be surprised at how easy it is to get going quickly. I was matching my salary in 2/3rds of the hours the first year (left a local authority job).

I started with a second hand trailer and a lawnmower someone gave me. £5k would get you started with good professional kit and a second hand van or a decent trailer.

AllyMcBeagle · 03/05/2018 19:20

we're near the south coast. I don't really want to say more than that in case the information gets into unwanted hands but if that's still not specific enough I can PM you!

Well I was partly thinking Government Legal Service as a possibility which others have mentioned. Most of the jobs are in London, but there are some outside. PM me if you want to know more as I know where most of the regional teams are. Regional pay for non-manager lawyer roles with 5 years since qualification is in normally in the region of £45k and the hours are 37/week.

There's teaching at BPP and University of Law too. I wouldn't recommend going into regular academia (I have a relative who teaches law at a university and it's lots of weekend work and long hours), but University of Law/BPP don't seem too bad as they are teaching rather than research focussed. I think the only southern campuses are Bristol and Exeter though.

There's local government too but the pay's not brilliant from what I understand (I'm not sure if this is where your DH was before?).

And as others have said, things generally seem better in-house than working for a private firm. It's hard to tell without knowing the location but if there's a big local employer of any kind (eg energy firms, telecoms etc) they might have their own legal team.

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