When to discuss salary in job application process

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If applying for a job advertised at say 70k, if I am currently on 100k and am happy with a decrease but not this much, down to, say 85k, when so I raise the topic?
Current role is part time so pro rats more like 87, so I'm happy to do eg compressed hours to get the full salary in new job at a much lower official rate.

Do I call up to discuss before applying? Bring up in interview? Only raise if I'm offered the job presumably at 70k?

Only raise if offered.

At either interview or when offered the job.

If it is advertised at £70k, then you would be unreasonable to ask for £85k which is more than 20% higher. On the other hand if it's from £70k, fine to negotiate.

I would raise it in response to an offer, unless you are going through a recruitment agency/head hunter, in which case raise it before you apply.

So they've advertised the job at 70K full time and you want part time prorata 85K....

Good luck. It's quite a deviation from their recruitment requirement.

Bring it up if offered.

Thanks for advice.

daisy I want £85 for the full time hours, but I'd like to do them as compressed hours so over 4 days. Not asking for £85 for the part time hours, that would be over 100k so clearly way too much over the advertised salary. Though no harm in asking right? I've read plenty of things saying men are a lot more likely to push for a higher salary and ask for something a bit cheeky and this contributes to the pay gap, so no harm in a woman giving it a go

If I get offered the job I'll let you know how I get on

I've read plenty of things saying men are a lot more likely to push for a higher salary and ask for something a bit cheeky and this contributes to the pay gap, so no harm in a woman giving it a go

I have seen this repeated over and over like a mantra on MN with no actual evidence. I find it quite discriminatory (not saying you are!) to always label 'men do this, women do that'. My advice is don't just do something "because that's what men do, so why shouldn't I?"

Do it because it makes sense, because you have a sound business rationale and because you can convince them to pay you more than they had planned to or budgeted for. £85k even if prorata is still a lot of anyone's money unless you can tell them why you're worth it.

Good points daisy, I don't disagree with any of that.

To be pedantic I'll point out that I said 'men are a lot more likely to', as I know men and women don't fit neatly into two mutually exclusive boxes, and this is a point I'm constantly banging on about to friends, so I fully agree there. My point was that I don't see anything wrong with a slightly ambitious salary request, I think it's not necessary to feel completely bound by a published figure - especially in the private sector there is always wiggle room if they want someone. How much wiggle room is the debate

I think if the job is advertised at 70k than that is what they are most likely able to pay.
You can of course ask for more if you feel you can offer them something extra in your skill set / experience that is relevant to the role but not mentioned. Or if it is difficult to find the right candidate in terms of qualifications for the role - which of course you have. I'd raise the issue at the end of the interview to stop them / you wasting time further down the line.