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How to ask for time off for funeral advice please

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herewegoagain18 · 21/03/2018 23:27

Hi there,

Not sure if this is the right place to post but looking for some feedback or advice.

My Aunt passed away suddenly at 53 beginning of December last year. This came as a big shock espically as I did not know straight away she was in hospital and then later found out she was in intensive care.

The reason I did not know was because of difficult family relationships and her son (my cousin). Long backstory.

Due to his unpredictability and abuse in the family we do not have contact . He lived with my aunt so we could also not have contact with her by visiting or even by phone.

I have had counselling in the past due to him as aside from the abuse to various family members (mentally and physically) I was abused by him when I was early teens.

he has repeatedly come to where we live despite him knowing he is not welcome. Police have been called or notified many times though cannot do very much .

I am ashamed to say I did not visit my aunt in hospital initially through fear of having to see him though I was not aware of how serious the situation was until a week later, I got up to see her as soon as I could .

Meanwhile things had taken a bad turn and I see her the night before she passed. I had planned to go up again first thing in the morning but got the call early hours of the morning to say she had passed away.

I called my employer a little later that morning to notify them what had happened. I was off that day but due to work the next day and explained I would not be fit to work the next day as too upset, was just about holding it together on the phone.

they said they would see what they could do regarding cover .(I work as a care worker going to clients homes) They later let me know they had managed to cover my shift. I expressed my thanks.

The following day I didn't feel ready to return in a days time and they basically told me I couldn't have the time off as they needed me in and I couldn't keep taking time off (i had had a bad couple of bouts of illness recent to that).

I returned to work and burst into tears just after visiting my first client. I really struggled through the remainder of the week and was not sleeping and eating .
The anxiety also of him was affecting me on top of the grief and shock of losing my Aunt .

I went to the doctors the following week as was finding it all very hard to cope and was signed off of work for a bit over two weeks.

Work were not happy about this and more or less said I had let them down espically with Christmas coming up.

I spent the time off feeling I could not grieve for my aunt as the anxiety of my cousin and the situation was getting to me and on top of that feeling guilty and like crap (to put it politely ) for being signed off work.

Shortly after I returned to work they had me go to a meeting regarding time off sick to ensure I had not gotten signed off just so I had the Christmas period off and that it was down to grief. This upset me deeply and If im honest i still have a bittertaste regarding it. But thought for sake of my job to put it let it go.

Through any discussion of my aunt passing or the situation they have not said they are sorry for my loss or expressed any condolences. They did not understand why I benefited from being signed off for my grief and kept repeating she was not immediate family.

Now my Aunties Funeral has finally been arranged (very very delayed due to difficult circumstances ). I have to let my work (who did not know I had not even had the funeral yet) it has now been arranged for in a little under two weeks.

I feel sick with anxiety as I know we will have to see my cousin and he has already expressed to another family member he plans to try to talk to me and build a relationship again. I know any communication he will use as an opening to come to our home.

This is aside from the fact it's going to be such a distressing day after the circumstances of my aunt and length of time .

I am due to work just the morning the day following the funeral, the day of would be a normal full day (rota not set yet) . I honestly don't feel I will be up to work following the day of funeral . I know anxiety will be through the roof and from experience of recent family member funeral the upset will effect my ibs .

In light of how they handled my Aunt passing I'm wondering how to word that I would need the day of funeral off and following so two days ? I am more than willing to use holiday or take it unpaid whichever is most appropriate. I don't expect it off paid. It's how to word this request?

Sorry for the very long post any advice greatly received
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maxelly · 21/03/2018 23:54

Sorry to hear about your aunt and difficult family circumstances, sounds really tough for you. I don't have any definite answer for you as you know your workplace/manager best, but you seem to be being quite reasonable by being willing to use holiday rather than being paid for the time.

I think if it was me I would just write a very short and simple email (rather than phoning so that I could write it out in advance, but I guess some managers would prefer a call!) stating that you would like to request holiday for those dates as it is your aunt's funeral, without going into all the complexities around your cousin etc. I would briefly explain that you will have family commitments (or something along those lines) on both days. Many people I know would have to take more than one day off to attend a family funeral because of the need to travel or other practicalities (quite aside from all the emotional side of things) so it's not that unusual for you to ask for both days.

Hopefully they will be understanding and you've given them as much notice as you can. Good luck, hope it gets sorted for you Flowers

BackforGood · 22/03/2018 00:01

Wouldn't it be better to keep this as one thread, and not start duplicates ?

TrippingTheVelvet · 22/03/2018 00:20

Can you not just put in an annual leave request and see if it's accepted? No need for any explanations.

insancerre · 22/03/2018 06:42

Request annual leave

herewegoagain18 · 22/03/2018 07:50

Hi Thankyou for your reply so

I did write a longer reply but it got lost.

@Maxelly I did think to word it as you said needing to travel or family commitments so would need the two days.

Definitely keeping my cousin out of it.

Unfortunately i dont think an email would be acceptable it would really need to be by phone.

In regards to Annual leave I thought I had added in post that it's 4 weeks notice for a request.

Also it's half term so dont know if it will be accepted as an annual leave request . I say this from experience when a couple of hospital appointments have come up which happend to fall in half term and there has been an issue. But it's later been granted .

It's really how to word it and sound reasonable requesting the two days I'm worried about and take it off as what's suitable.

Thankyou to everyone for your responses

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daisychain01 · 22/03/2018 09:32

I'd ask them for special dispensation to take the days as annual leave even though you can't give 4 weeks notice. Don't go into great detail just state its your aunt's funeral. Be sure to thank them for their kind understanding during this difficult time (you may not feel it but you'd be best saying it as a sweetener) Reassure them you will get back to normal as soon as you can. Unfortunately they won't offer sympathy as they do have a resource problem but you just need to smooth things over as best you can

They will hopefully take the view that at least it isn't sick leave or bereavement leave and you've done your best to mitigate the situation as best you can.

itstimeforanamechange · 22/03/2018 10:26

In regards to Annual leave I thought I had added in post that it's 4 weeks notice for a request

Yes I'm sure that's the case generally but wouldn't apply for funerals. I have been to my aunt's funeral this week and only found out last Wednesday that it was going to be this Tuesday. You can't give 4 weeks' notice for a funeral.

herewegoagain18 · 23/03/2018 19:53

Hi daisychain01

Thankyou for helpful response.

I have called, they have the dates. They were passed along to management. Just waiting to find out what the verdict is. Didn't talk about taking it as annual leave ect yet.

Be sure to thank them for their kind understanding during this difficult time (you may not feel it but you'd be best saying it as a sweetener) Reassure them you will get back to normal as soon as you can.
Yes will do as you suggest.

Your right about the sympathy. But an offer of condolences when initially being told about her death would have been nice (whether sincerely meant or not). It's just a natural reaction when finding out about a death even if you don't feel emotionally invested in it or know the person well. I would have just thought it was the human response.

They will hopefully take the view that at least it isn't sick leave or bereavement leave and you've done your best to mitigate the situation as best you can

Yes it's asking for the day for funeral and following as practical things to be taken care of. Keeping the emotional side out of it completely.

Thanks again
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herewegoagain18 · 23/03/2018 20:10

Hi itstimeforanamechange
No of course they cant expect that,most funerals are arranged within a couple of weeks of the person passing maybe 3 weeks at a push.

This is quite unusual circumstances.

Just thought I should mention though the 4 week policy (usally) for funerals as I don't know if all companies are like this, some may have shorter notice periods.

I'm really sorry to hear your aunt passed away.
I'm sorry for your loss. I hope the funeral went well.FlowersFlowersFlowers

Thankyou for your reply
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LoveProsecco · 23/03/2018 22:12

I remember your original post. I hope you can get the time off & the funeral hells you to grieve Thanks

daisychain01 · 23/03/2018 23:28

herewegoagain take care and stay strong. Glad we've been able to help in some small measure. You can count on some empathy and handholding on here, unfortunately compassion can be hit and miss in companies, they sometime forget to be human beings Flowers

herewegoagain18 · 24/03/2018 00:09

Thankyou LoveProsseco
Flowers xxx

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herewegoagain18 · 24/03/2018 00:16

Thankyou daisychain you are kind Flowers

I know they have a business to run and it's tougher due to nature of the business . But I'm still quite shocked at the way they have handled this.
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Hopefully the request is granted without having to have any discussions. I was worried about ringing in to speak to management. Didn't want it to seem I'm taking liberties. It was passed on the dates, and reason as manager not around at that moment .

Thankyou again all.

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herewegoagain18 · 25/03/2018 12:02

Well I'm on the Rota to work the funeral . Hopefully they just forgot the request (has happend before with urgent appointment) Will have to phone when management are in tommrow .
Just hope it won't now be an issue as rotas now are done (after I notified of dates) Confused
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herewegoagain18 · 04/04/2018 19:23

Date of funeral authorised but not thd following day . Had the funeral now.

Thankyou again for all the responses

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LoveProsecco · 06/04/2018 09:46

Glad you got to attend Thanks

herewegoagain18 · 11/04/2018 18:38

Just seen your reply loveprosseco Thankyou
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