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Tuesday-Thursday contract and bank holidays

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distanttrees · 11/03/2018 09:29

I haven't worked part-time before, but have started with a new company, agreeing to work 3 days, Tuesdays to Thursdays with flexibility around the days e.g. if I need to work a Monday instead of say, a Thursday, I can do so if it suits me.
They've just sent me a contract to sign and it has 15 days paid holiday (i.e. 5 weeks) including bank holidays. Someone else I know who works there (full-time), a man if that makes any difference, gets 5 weeks paid holiday plus bank holidays as standard.
Does this sound right? In other words, no allowance for bank holidays with my contract? If it's a Monday bank holiday I wouldn't be working anyway, but it might make a difference around Christmas and New Year.
As I said, I've never worked PT before, so I don't know what usually happens.
Thanks for any advice - I haven't signed it yet, but HR are putting pressure on me to get it back by first thing Monday even though I didn't receive it until late on Friday (a day off!)

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YimminiYoudar · 11/03/2018 09:32

You are correct that this is not right. You should not be on less favourable terms than a full time employee with all benefits pro-rata. Take the total number of weekdays including bank holidays that a full time worker gets, times that by 0.6 and that is your legal entitlement.

YimminiYoudar · 11/03/2018 09:35

(Even without the ft comparison 5 weeks inc bank hols is illegal - 5.6 weeks is the statutory minimum. But if ft employees at the same grade get more then pt must too.

Alabama3 · 11/03/2018 09:37

normal entitlement is 25 days plus 8 for bank holidays
so 33 days then you divide by 5 (for the full timers to get 1 dayers) 6.6 then times by 3 gives you 19.8

might be easier to work out hours
say 7 hours 33 days as hours is 231
divided by 5 again 46.2
x 3 138.6 hours

I think

bookgirl1982 · 11/03/2018 09:46

Yes, sounds like they've done the sums wrong, unless the 15 days could be a pro-rate for the rest of this year?

distanttrees · 11/03/2018 09:53

Thank you so much for the clarification everyone, I'll query it with them. It may be that the contract is badly-worded.

The offer letter says the annual holiday entitlement is 15 days excluding bank holidays, and the relevant section in the contract says "your initial paid holiday entitlement includes statutory public and bank holidays".

That made it sound to me that it was 15 days without any bank holiday entitlement.

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distanttrees · 11/03/2018 09:54

And the 15 days are annual entitlement, not pro-rata.

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dementedpixie · 11/03/2018 10:03

Statutory entitlement is 5.6 weeks (28 days) which would be 16.8 days for you. The 5.6 weeks can include the bank holidays but if they include them for full timers then you should get a pro rata amount of them too.

dementedpixie · 11/03/2018 10:08

So they get 33 days so that is 5 days above statutory. 3/5 Of 5 days would be 3 days. I reckon you should get 16.8 (round up to 17 days) plus the 3 pro rated bank holidays to give 20 days

DevaDiva · 11/03/2018 10:12

Minimum holiday entitlement for full time is 20 days plus 8 bank hols. 25 days leave plus bank hols isn't unusual but is an enhanced benefit.

If you work 3 days a week you're entitled to 16.8 days holiday per year; you can work it out here (hope the link works!) www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement/y/days-worked-per-week/full-year/3.0

If your company offer 25 days leave as standard then your pro-rata entitlement should be 15 days plus 4.8 days bank hols the contract sounds like it isn't worded very clearly. Ask them to clarify.

DevaDiva · 11/03/2018 10:13

X posted! At least we agree Smile

titchy · 11/03/2018 10:36

Agree you're two days short. But check when Christmas and NY fall - this year and next year all 3 bank holidays fall on your work days so leaving things as they stand mean you'll get an extra day - if you only intend to be there a couple of years keep quiet!

dementedpixie · 11/03/2018 10:50

She's approx 5 days short, not 2. I'd clarify the holiday policy before signing

titchy · 11/03/2018 11:08

Actually yes - sorry was basing on 28 days hol for FT - in fact it's 33, so she should get 20 inc BH.

SleepingInYourFlowerbed · 11/03/2018 11:24

Full time workers at my company get 25 days plus bank Holidays. I work 3 days (Tues - Thurs) but actually only 52% of the full-time hours. My holiday is 16 days plus 2 Bank Holidays that I work at Christmas. So I definitely think yours is not high enough

distanttrees · 28/03/2018 19:50

An update and thank you so much for this information. I was told it would be 16 days, but when I looked at the online leave record, it was down as 14.

After two emails arguing the case, it's now been amended to 16.5 days (pro rata for 3 days a week, and allowing for me not starting at the beginning of the leave year) - I'd have been robbed of 2.5 days if I hadn't queried it.

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