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parental leave denied

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user1471461798 · 03/03/2018 20:23

I work term time only and requested parental leave for 3 weeks as my daughter leaves school this year and we plan on going to Florida as it’s less money than school holidays. Anyway my employer has rejected it , stating I have enough holiday throughout the year. My argument is I am entitled to this leave and have spoken to Acas who agree with me. I should add that my job entails covering for others, sickness, days off to look after their children and also holidays! How do I deal with this?

OP posts:
titchy · 09/03/2018 09:13

Would your child's welfare be affected if you didn't go?

How is that relevant?

celesti · 09/03/2018 09:14

It's relevant because that is what parental leave is for! Look it up

Original poster
user1471461798 · 09/03/2018 09:25

celesti, Can you tell me what your definition of Parental Leave is, i’m intrigued?

OP posts:
SleepingInYourFlowerbed · 09/03/2018 09:27

Celesti - I'd recommend reading at least some of the thread if you're going to post on a thread with 500 posts. You might find different that your point has been made and addressed already

SleepingInYourFlowerbed · 09/03/2018 09:28

Don't know where the random different came from Confused

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user1471461798 · 09/03/2018 09:31

It also states in the guidelines- to spend more time with grandparents, if you read my post earlier, i pointed out ,grandparents are coming with us! So I actually am covered by at least 2 points on the guidelines. Perhaps in hindsight I shouldn’t have put the holiday on the form, they didn’t need to know what I was doing in that time. Are you also saying that if someone uses it during the holidays to reduce childcare costs, that they must stay at home and not go anywhere?

OP posts:
Willow2017 · 09/03/2018 09:36

celesti
If you had rtft you would know why op doesnt have 13 other weeks to do this.
Parental leave is to spend time with family/child. Where and why you are doing this is nobody elses business.
Op is legally entitled to it. End of.

bruffin · 09/03/2018 10:11

OP is not legally entitled to take it when she wants, the company has a choice to delay it, with good business reasons and being an education service in term time is pretty good reason, they may not have handled it correctly but they do have a right to delay it.

MyDcAreMarvel · 09/03/2018 10:16

They can't delay it now bruffin as they didn't respond in time.

Willow2017 · 09/03/2018 10:34

bruffin
Op requested it in plenty time. They did not offer other dates but refused it point blank and did not follow procedure at any time.
They have shot themselves in the foot.

bruffin · 09/03/2018 10:40

I did point out that they handled it wrong, but some posters seem to think they can take the date they want.

mikeyssister · 09/03/2018 11:03

@celesti Go wobble your head somewhere else.

Maybe at employers who don't know the law.

mikeyssister · 09/03/2018 11:06

@bruffin you missing the point totally. If employer had handled the request within the guidelines the holiday would never have been booked.

bruffin · 09/03/2018 11:23

milkeyssister you are missing the point, I am talking in generally,or in this case if it had been handled correctly.

celesti · 09/03/2018 11:41

No ok I haven't read the whole thread.

IF for whatever reason OP doesn't see her children during her 13 weeks holiday (can't imagine why she wouldn't) and for whatever reason this is the ONLY opportunity they get to spend time with their grandparents during the year then fair enough.

But I doubt that's the case - OP just wants a cheap term time holiday and is clutching at straws talking about grandparents coming in order to justify parental leave.

I'm all in favour of working parents rights but this is not the kind of scenario parental leave is intended for.

celesti · 09/03/2018 11:47

Are you also saying that if someone uses it during the holidays to reduce childcare costs, that they must stay at home and not go anywhere?

That's not what it's for either. It's not for reducing childcare costs ffs!

Willow2017 · 09/03/2018 11:54

celesti
The point is its legaly due unpaid leave.
If you can afford to take it you do not have to give a reason.
If op has to take the holiday around her ohs work and her dds other upcoming commitmemts then thats nothing to do with anyone neither is where they are going.

SleepingInYourFlowerbed · 09/03/2018 12:09

Celesti you should probably take your own advice and look up the rules about parental leave

FormerlyFrikadela01 · 09/03/2018 12:11

I'm all in favour of working parents rights but this is not the kind of scenario parental leave is intended for.

So what is the kind of scenario it was intended for?

AlexanderHamilton · 09/03/2018 12:21

This has been sai many times by many people but for the benefit of those who refuse to read I will say it again.

Parental leave was designed to allow parents to spend more time with their children.

It doesn’t matter if someone thinks they already have enough time with them. It doesn’t matter if that time is a cheap holiday or reducing childcare costs or travelling across thi Himalayas or whatever as long as that parent is spending time with their child they are entitled.

celesti · 09/03/2018 13:05

It's for things like staying with a child whilst they're in hospital, not 3 week holidays to Disney!

celesti · 09/03/2018 13:07

And the OP CAN spend time with her children during the holidays already so that's not really an argument. She just can't afford to do it in Florida.

AlexanderHamilton · 09/03/2018 13:08

You are wrong Celesti - in fact unless you have 6 weeks advance notification of your child being in hospital you can’t use it for that. (You could instead ask for Emergency Dependents Leave)

A 3 week holiday to Disney is an excellent example of what Parental Leave can be used for.

AlexanderHamilton · 09/03/2018 13:10

By using parental leave she can spend MORE time either her children on top of the holidays she already gets.

This has been estsblished already way down the thread.

notapizzaeater · 09/03/2018 13:10

Doesn't matter why the OP wants to use it, she is entitled to it.

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