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seriousone · 21/01/2018 17:13

Ive name changed for this,hoping for advice from anyone with hr experience, about a month ago a colleague raised an harassment grievance on me and as they are investigating im not allowed too see the evidence but I believe there isn't any because I never work with this colleague ever but while they investigate ive been moved to a dept I don't want to work in,I however have raised my own grievance about the colleague myself stating that I believe she has raised a false allegation about me(due to what I believe no evidence)and that she is taking about the investigation too other colleagues,breech of confidentiality,and that if we ever do work together(which I think is once in a blue moon!)she doesn't talk too me at all so I believe it is slander and bullying.Im just wondering what will happen,am waiting for a response from hr but they are slow,if anyone knows if the other person will be treated the same as myself and be suspended while they investigate or will they investigate the two allegations separately because they should.I really want too return to my own dept but if im moved because im under suspicion then surely my colleague should be treated same as me.

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daisychain01 · 21/01/2018 17:32

I need to ask the question... is there any truth at all in the accusation of harassment by this colleague. Or is it a complete lie and you can provide some reasonable evidence or alibi that their accusation cannot be true?

Btw, Harassment is associated specifically with a characteristic such as disability, race, sex. Is this colleague in one of these categories, do you know?

LIZS · 21/01/2018 17:39

Why would you be moved if you don't work together? Did you talk about her to others? Send emails or texts which could have been misconstrued? Sorry but I'm finding your post hard to follow.

seriousone · 21/01/2018 17:57

As far as I know there is no evidence because I haven't done anything,they will not show me the evidence until my investigation meeting is held though ive asked for it
Lizs we work in same dept they moved me so they can do fair investigation,have not got her phone number to contact her

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LIZS · 21/01/2018 18:00

Confusing as you said you didn't work with the complainant. Have you ever spoken to her/ignored her?

flowery · 21/01/2018 18:12

Why have you started a new thread? You’ve already got an active one in this topic.

seriousone · 21/01/2018 18:19

Lizs we work in same dept but very rare on shift together,flowery the other thread isnt about thr grievance

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LIZS · 21/01/2018 18:21

Link? Is the issue then that you don't communicate and then blame each other?

seriousone · 21/01/2018 18:27

She put in the concern about me too the matron

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LIZS · 21/01/2018 18:30

Don't think you are giving full enough info here to help.

BuzzKillington · 21/01/2018 18:31

Your post is hard to read without punctuation.

I think you need to provide a bit more info if you want advice.

retirednow · 21/01/2018 18:35

Are you in a union, if so call your rep.

Chewbecca · 21/01/2018 18:44

Usually if a grievance is raised and found to be a false allegation, the complainant would potentially be subject to disciplinary procedures for making the false allegation. Therefore there is no need to raise a counter grievance if that is your only point.

Have you read the grievance procedure?

seriousone · 21/01/2018 19:00

Chewbecca, colleague was reported for something and police interviewed and questioned me ,then dropped the case as no evidence(was suspended through this),now im being put through investigation at work because colleague claimed I did what police spoke to me about(though police had no evidence)hence why I raised a grievance against her because the allegations are fake so she is slandering my name, just wondering if they will investigate us both (in which case she should be suspended as
Well?)or will they investigate my grievance as a separate one

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daisychain01 · 21/01/2018 19:06

As far as I know there is no evidence because I haven't done anything

I get what you're saying, but you need to see it from the colleague's perspective. You maintain you haven't done anything, but they've raised a grievance saying you have. Harrassment is a serious accusation these days.

So at some point you will need to be prepared to defend yourself which, as I said upthread, will be (for example) an alibi or some explanation as to why the colleague is lying.

You're welcome on here any time for support, but you don't even know what you're accused of and haven't been asked to attend a hearing meeting to discuss the grievance, so it's very difficult to give useful advice.

As per your other thread they are letting you continue in your role so, maybe the accusation isn't serious enough for your employer to keep you suspended or take any disciplinary action.

daisychain01 · 21/01/2018 19:11

If you've put in a counter grievance and you have stated it is directly linked and in response to the one your colleague put in, then they may think it best to review them concurrently so it is all one case. It would be more efficient and logical to do that.

Again, sorry it's guesswork here, it's quite a unique and complex situation

seriousone · 21/01/2018 19:26

Daisychain im going back to work but im under strict instructions to not have contact with ppl in my dept,whatsoever, as an investigation is going on and I guess they don't want to pay me to be suspended so im being forced to work elsewhere for now,I know the colleague is lieing as the case was dropped because of the evidence and I was at work when the alleged offence took place

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retirednow · 21/01/2018 19:29

I'm confused, why were you interviewed and what happened to the colleague who was reported in the first place. Is it the same colleague who has complained about you.

seriousone · 21/01/2018 19:37

Retirednow the police interviewed me because they said they had found something on my computer and when the paperwork came from the police there was no evidence against me but the same colleague raised the grievance

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LIZS · 21/01/2018 19:39

Did police say there was no evidence or not proceed due to lack of evidence? Your ip address was implicated but you were blaming an unknown 3rd party. I seem to recall reading the equally confusing thread and feeling unable to comment. How has this become a workplace issue? Tbh it all sounds a bit tit for tat.

retirednow · 21/01/2018 19:44

If there is no evidence against you and the police have dropped the case why are your employers continuing with this. Have you got legal advice or spoken to your union/ACAS.

seriousone · 21/01/2018 19:50

Lizs not proceed due to lack of evidence,the police said it was my ip adress but when the paperwork came back there wasn't anything showing my Ip adress and retirednow and lizs its become a work issue because the colleague reported it too management and wants it investigating,union are involved and will support me when I have investigation meeting(I have to be vague on here as I cant out myself due to my work)

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LIZS · 21/01/2018 19:59

Why ask on here when union can better advise and presumably have access to more information. Unless you have been there longer than 2 years you may find yourself wanting to look for another job regardless of the outcome.

LoveProsecco · 21/01/2018 20:00

Was it your work or personal computer?

seriousone · 21/01/2018 20:07

Lizs been there 9 half yrs,union has no access to any info as they haven't seen any paperwork(and wont until investigation meeting has been carried out),am looking about allready.
Loveprosecco was an ip adress associated with my internet acc,so could of been wifi on phone(,if was work computer it would of been traced to work ip adress)

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