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Should I speak to HR about this?

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GetOrfMyBin · 28/11/2017 18:51

I don’t know whether I’m being a bit ‘over-sensitive’ about this and would appreciate some outside input on whether I should speak to HR about my line manager at all.

My dad died in April. He took his own life and it’s been a traumatic time since. My line manager can be a bit...outspoken. He talks about things that he’s not meant to and has very set views, mouths off a bit about people on benefits and is quite judgemental.

My line manager knows how my dad died and has had a few cases of not engaging his brain before he speaks. I understand he’s not necessarily thinking, and of course I’m going to pick up on it more, but actually I think he should know better. There are three occasions where he’s said something that I’ve found upsetting, the most recent today. He walked in this morning whinging about temporary traffic lights and about how the person who is responsible for highways should be strung up. He went on to say that ‘the person should be hung from a lamppost and made an example of’. I didn’t immediately say anything but did think ‘did you really just say that?’. I had to go outside and have a minute because it actually really upset me. I was having a bad day anyway but that comment just really hit me. I did ask him for a word about 50 mins later as it was playing on my mind and asked him to think before he speaks. He was confused at first and then when I started to remind him of what he said he realised. He apologised but pretty much embarrassed/nervous laughed throughout him speaking. He said I could take a few minutes if I needed them. I took a minute or two as a couple of tears had escaped and then came back to my desk.

The two previous occasions were a bit different as the comments were aimed at me and a colleague. We were putting together a presentation and having a discussion about it. Line manager said ‘well if you want to go hang yourselves..’ and then on the other occassion ‘if you want to commit professional suicide’. Both of these comments upset me but I didn’t pull him up on it. Both comments were made in July.

There are other issues at play here as well. My colleague asked for a pay rise in her supervision last week and within the conversion my line manager basically said to her that if I got a pay rise they would need to add more responsibilities to my job role. There’s a bit of a long story to that one but I wasn’t impressed that he was discussing that with my colleague. He’s also made comments on my brother having two kids by the age of 22 and other things. Like I said earlier he does discuss things he shouldn’t.

I’m considering speaking to HR about it. I don’t necessarily want to make a formal complaint but the way he can be is starting to impact on me. Today my head has been a bit all over the place. I’ve tried to keep busy but not been 100% successful. My husband thinks my line manager is out of order and I should speak to HR. Is there any point speaking to them or should I just leave it?

I’d appreciate any advice - thank you.

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MyBrilliantDisguise · 28/11/2017 18:54

He sounds an absolute idiot and not fit to be a manager. I would complain to HR.

MyBrilliantDisguise · 28/11/2017 18:54

And I'm so sorry about your dad - it must be a terrible time for you all.

Flowers
Moreisnnogedag · 28/11/2017 18:59

Firstly I'm sorry for your loss in such terrible circumstances.

I must admit though your examples of his language are I think turn of phrases. I know it must be painful each time but he's using language that lots of people use and can be very hard to constantly remind oneself about. I'm glad he apologised.

The example of him talking about your job role however I would think is unacceptable. He sounds a twonk overall but I'm not sure HR level of twonk.

Katescurios · 28/11/2017 18:59

My mum committed suicide by hanging when I was 21. While I reply do appreciate how much the comments hurt you right now, they are not directed at you and no ill intent is meant by them.

I was so very sensitive to the 'oh my god I'm so bored I could kill myself' type comments at first too but my sensitivity faded and hours will as well.

My friend accidentally included me in a group text with an on trend joke. It was back in the day of using symbols to draw pictures via SMS and was a picture of a hangman. She was devastated when she realised what she'd done.

People don't think before they speak and phrases become ingrained and habit to them.

Remind him if he says something that upsets you but try to remember that not long ago you probably wouldn't have noticed what he was saying and may have even said similar yourself.

So sorry for your loss xxxx

TheEmmaDilemma · 28/11/2017 19:07

I'm sorry for what you've been through.

I agree he needs to think before he speaks. Ideally we shouldn't use language like that at all. But people do, and sometimes it's said without forthought.

Someone recently said something similar and I winced. We had a team member for whom it related to. They weren't to know. But I did wince.

In his position and knowing the situation I think he should be more careful. Given the other comments, a quiet word with HR rather than a complaint I think.

Butterymuffin · 28/11/2017 19:14

I agree with the other comments about these references just being figurative - but he sounds like a lousy manager anyway. Who rants that forcefully to their staff about temporary traffic lights? I would start looking for a job elsewhere as that will be the fastest and most effective way to get out of his orbit.

If he's saying things about your brother in front of you, for example, I would try saying 'I don't think that's relevant to my work'. Be super professional yourself and use that route to commenting if you have to. Just leave the room if he uses upsetting language and give yourself time to recover.

GetOrfMyBin · 28/11/2017 19:23

Thank you all for your comments, they are really appreciated.

I’m not wanting to complain but I thought I’d ask whether I should mention anything as my husband is insistent that I should get it logged. I recognise that I’m going to pick up on anything regarding that issue a lot more than maybe I would have done. I don’t remember him ever using any of the phrases before but it’s possible he has said something and it’s not registered because it wasn’t exactly relevant to me then.

I am in the process of looking for another role elsewhere, so I’m hoping I won’t have to hear much more of his rants much longer.

Thank you all again Flowers

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daisychain01 · 29/11/2017 07:30

Although he sounds boorish and lacking in tact and diplomacy, I would not report him. It won't benefit you in the long run and these things (wrongly) can mark a person as a troublemaker.

Channel your energies into getting yourself a new role away from this ghastly person. You've had a lot to cope with so take care of yourself first and foremost

rizlett · 29/11/2017 07:59

My Dad took his own life by hanging when I was young. I had the same experience as you op and was very affected by anything people said in connection to that and also if I saw anything like that in a movie or on tv.

Gradually though as I processed my feelings this affected me less and less and today it wouldn't affect me at all. Unless he is a dick and doing it on purpose but even if he is I would try and view it as a way to heal myself rather than decide it's something to hurt myself with. I appreciate this is easier to say than do. Flowers

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