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Desk problem. Not sure how to handle

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Mehfruittea · 11/11/2017 09:26

I have been in role for a few months, company is small ish and we have 20 people working in our section. It’s just had a refurb with all new carpets furniture etc. The company is in a male dominated industry but our section is all admin based and mostly female. The desks that have arrived are not standard desks from an office furniture supplier but are from one of our customers and aimed at our industry. They are too tall!

The desk is too high to get a proper seating posture. If we raise our chair height then feet don’t touch the ground. I’m average height 5’6” and it’s too tall for me. I have ladies in my team who are much shorter than me. I am manger of 8 people, 1 male 7 female. All 7 women have said they are getting neck, shoulder and back pain due to desks.

I’ve raised it informally with HR assistant who is in charge of desk assessments. She said she would come to our building and complete new assessments after my request. She said she would come last week but no day specified. She didn’t come. Informally, I’ve been told the M.D. is aware and just passed it off as moaning.

Reality check. I know how much we spent on this refurb and how tight the company finances are. We’re on a knife edge and simply can not afford to replace them. There is no way to make them smaller. They are simply designed by men. For men. It’s ridiculous but don’t know how to navigate this delicate issue. I can’t simply say the same thing louder and louder until someone listens, I need a different way to handle this. I’m new and don’t want to lose this job by being seen as negative or unable to manage my team. What do I do?!

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helpfulperson · 11/11/2017 14:03

Are you sure the desks aren't height adjustable? Loads of our desks have feet on the bottom that screw in and out to make the whole desk a different height.

Mehfruittea · 11/11/2017 18:58

Unfortunately desks are not adjustable, hope this is not too outing. The industry we work in make desks, we make other supplies. One of our customers who buys our stuff, sold us our desks. They are made from some weird man made tough plastic and formed from one solid peice. They look really nice, are very expensive but just not practical as office furniture. Our chairs are again really nice looking large leather chairs. But the seat is very deep, perfect for a man with standard Man legs but women of average height can’t sit fully back in the chair or our knees won’t bend. One of my team genuinely looks like a toddler in dads chair, it’s just not funny. But we’ve already been told to ‘make it work’ because of how much money has been spent making the office look good. We’re supposed to be grateful, and other aspects of the refurb are brilliant, but the failure to take in to account women and average body size is just unreal.

I’m not sure how long I want to wrk for a company that does this tbh.

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BakedBeans47 · 11/11/2017 21:00

I agree with getting footrests. They’ll need to find a solution even if it is all new desks. They can’t be that skint if they just spent £££ on a refurbishment Hmm

EBearhug · 12/11/2017 09:37

If you make stuff like office furniture, shouldn't you already be aware of workplace assessments? Maybe this will make them more aware they should be testing furniture on women as well as men. (Although, going by what you say of your MD...)

Anyway, hope footrests sort it out.

ImNotWhoYouThinkIAmOhNo · 12/11/2017 19:14

I don't think the MD can meet his obligations by just telling you to make it work. Hmmm. Get those assessments done. Look up the stats on the cost of bad backs/necks etc to UK industry. Meeting a claim might be more than the cost of new desks!!

forgottenusername · 16/11/2017 23:08

you can get backrests / supports that fit between the chair back and the back of the person sitting in the chair - might be useful too :)

HouseworkIsAPain · 16/11/2017 23:18

So do only men buy from your company? Wouldn’t you make more money if you could present desks that look good, to be suitable for both men and women in an office?

You could point out to your boss that there is an uptapped market out there for desks that work for 50% more of the population than he’s currently catering for!

Nyx1 · 20/11/2017 20:08

OP "I’m not sure how long I want to wrk for a company that does this tbh."

no, I can understand that. I had a situation where there was a refurb and similar happened with desks and chairs. Initially I didn't think anything of it, but then I got back pain, which I've never had in my life. Took me a few days to work out what the issue was - it was the chair rather than the desk. My boss told me the same crap - spent a fortune etc - so I got a letter from my GP and then in that time a few people - women I think, especially as the chairs were bizarrely huge - got back pain as well and they were forced to change.

Desks that don't function as desks? No. You can buy odd cushion things to help with this, and footstools etc but if they don't solve it then surely there's a legal case here. People can't work at desks that give them crippling backache. Mine was gone within a day when the chair was replaced.

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