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Lauralou69 · 24/08/2017 10:53

Does anyone have any advice on dealing with a colleague who is aggressive, bullish and rude to me and other members of staff but seems to get away with it because he has 'issues'. I feel bullied, belittled and fed up with his ranting behaviour. Do I have rights with respect to him having 'issues'?

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CosmicPineapple · 24/08/2017 10:57

You can make a formal complaint. The info should be available to you via HR.

His issues do not give him the right to bully you.

Lauralou69 · 24/08/2017 11:09

The next time he rants at me, flailing his arms about etc, do I have the right to walk out?

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flowery · 24/08/2017 12:24

No you do not have the right to walk out because someone rants at you. Raise your concerns with your manager, and if, having done this, there is no improvement, you can raise a formal grievance.

What improvement do you think is achievable? It's always sensible when considering raising a formal grievance to have identified an outcome you would like.

Queenioqueenio · 24/08/2017 19:05

No you don't have the right to walk out but you should walk away from him, and immediately inform a manager / HR what has happened and make sure it is documented.

BoneyBackJefferson · 24/08/2017 19:24

walk out of the room = yes
Walk out of work = no

Report and keep reporting.

Issues outside of work, shouldn't impact on work.

If the issues are health based then they also shouldn't give him any rights to harass you.

Lauralou69 · 24/08/2017 19:33

I have raised the issue with both my managers....same old same old, it's just the way he is (because of his issue/condition)...rise above it and ignore him.......why bloody should I ???

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HundredMilesAnHour · 24/08/2017 19:36

Don't walk out. That would make you the problem employee rather than him. If you've raised this before (I think you started an earlier thread?) but your manager/HR did nothing, you need to start documenting every time it happens. Stick the date, time and the facts of the incident in a spreadsheet and do this EVERY time it happens. Make sure you keep it factual i.e. "I asked X for his weekly status report and he stood up and yelled "you can get lost! I hate you" (for 4 mins) until I walked away."

When you have a reasonable number of incidents logged, sit down with your Manager/HR and go through them. It will be harder for them to ignore you when you have a detailed log of these incidents. However, if they do ignore you, then raise a formal grievance about it and include your log as supporting evidence.

When employers want an annoying problem like this to go away and not face up to it, the only way to get them to take action is to DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT.

CosmicPineapple · 24/08/2017 19:36

You need to put in a formal grievence.
You can go through HR not your managers.

BubblesBuddy · 24/08/2017 20:06

I think this behaviour from the other employee is misconduct. In some cases it would be gross misconduct and the employee could expect to be dismissed if such behaviour is expressly forbidden in the Disciplinary Policy of the company. Therefore you should see your HR department immediately. This behaviour is not acceptable. Keep a record of what has been said, what actions have been threatening and bullying. The health or circumstances of the employee should be taken into account when the company decides what to do, but it absolutely does not mean they do nothing. They have a duty of care to you.

The company should investigate the behaviour and decide if a warning is sufficient or whether it amounts to gross misconduct. (I think it does). They should, at the very least, seek to minimise the "issues" at work and this takes effort from them. At the moment it's just being pushed under the carpet. You do not have to go to work and be threatened like this so see HR or a very senior manager. They must do something about it.

BoneyBackJefferson · 24/08/2017 20:21

Lauralou69

I would, given that you have tried informally reporting, report formally in writing to your manager, making sure that you keep a record.

That way when you go to HR they can't shove you back on to your managers.

Make sure to give times, dates and if possible witnesses of each incident.

These can then be passed on to HR if your mangers do nothing.

Lauralou69 · 24/08/2017 20:57

Thank you, I will start documenting everything. He's even done it in front of customers (no one has complained 🤔) and he's a very tall big man who looks quite intimidating. It's tough because my managers feel sorry for him and I don't want to upset them but it seems fine that be upsets me!! I'm off now for a week, then he's off when I get back so at least I'm going to get a break. Thanks again for advice.

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BubblesBuddy · 24/08/2017 21:49

Do you have a policy which outlines behaviour with and around customers? This usually involves being polite at all times and includes with colleagues. Harassment and bullying are sackable offences. Have you read the comments Discipline Policy? Take it home for holiday reading! Also look up how discipline at work should be handled. Acas is a good starting point for a guide. There are lots of legal firms with excellent info on discipline at work too. Getting knowledge strengthens your position.

BubblesBuddy · 24/08/2017 21:50

Should read: The company's discipline policy

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