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please help - this can't be legal?

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littleredpanda · 02/08/2017 09:49

Changed name for this.
I work for a big big company, household name. I've worked here for 25 years. I have a business needs vehicle, which I do about 6,000 miles a year in (I work part time). I pay tax on that vehicle and I have personal use of the vehicle. I declare any personal mileage and pay it out of my salary each month. My personal mileage way outweighs my business mileage, but it is still deemed for some reason to be a 'necessary' tool of my job.

I have been told that they are installing equipment in my car. Front, rear and internal cameras with permanent recording, and a GPS tracker, and driving assistance. Should I brake hard, accelerate hard, take a corner hard or exceed a speed limit, inside or outside work, more than twice, that will result in a disciplinary action.

Data for the vehicles whereabouts, and my driving camera recordings both inside and outside working hours, will be available for my manager every week and he has to sign off to say he has seen it and agrees it. If he doesn't, it's a disciplinary.

There is NO privacy button/option.

There is also internal audio recording, but at this time it is 'disabled'.

I have some informal flexibility to work from home at times. On average my working week would probably pan out as 1 day in the office, one day travelling, one day at home. On both my travelling day and my working at home day I would think nothing of starting work at home, running the kids to school, then going to my appointment and picking them up conversely and finishing at home. I'm a single mum and I have no local backup, so juggling is a bloody nightmare at the best of times. On paper, those journeys would look awful and I'm absolutely terrified I'm going to be penalised for this. Not to mention I'm somewhat of an anxious driver anyway, and this bloody shouty voice telling me to 'slow down' or 'speed up' fills me with dread.

I've asked them to take the car back, they have refused. They say that despite being used so little, it's part of my job description and it's a tool of my work. I've asked for a car allowance instead; that too has been refused.

Please advise; I'm going insane about this. I've just had to have a blood pressure check and it's through the roof. It's triggering terrible anxiety which I've never had before. I've no idea what to do about this.

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MummytoCSJH · 13/08/2017 17:49

I'm not sure about during working hours or them looking odd but there is no way they are allowed to record you during your personal time. It breaches your privacy and it ridiculous they would even suggest it. I'd say get rid of the car entirely if you can and buy a cheap run around.

Littleredpanda · 14/08/2017 00:01

Thank you for the glut of replies.

My whereabouts isn't secret to anyone and home working is permitted as long as it's not excessive and not to the detriment of the business needs of my role, which I never do anyway, and yes I have considered that our IT teams are well aware of when I'm actively working or not (we have very visible IMing too which shows logged in/out/inactive/on conf calls etc which anyone in the company can see.

Here is a representation of a week; every week and every day is different it doesn't have any kind of pattern. 3 days a week.

Day one: office - drop kids and get in office at 8.30, stay working until 2.30, leave, pick them up and go home, be logged in by 3.10 latest and continue to actively work until 5.15pm. Kids are not needing me - they've helped themselves to a drink and snack and are playing outside.

Day two : travel day - drop kids 8.20 and be out at appointment/meetings until collecting them at 5 without a defined break.

Day three: work from home all day. Drop kids 8.20, actively logged in and working at 8.30, keep working through till 2.30, fetch them carry on working as per day one until 5.00 earliest.

I work more than I should and even outside these times I'm answering emails via my phone. I often log back in after the kids are in bed. I don't lie about where I am - if I'm at home, and I'm asked, I say that. No one ever asks!! I just can't handle people thinking badly of me or mis-perceptions of me. Juggling is tough but I work bloody hard to compensate for it and I have no worry or guilt at all that I do less than I should.

I've challenged the privacy but I am told they want to 'protect' the car, 24/7.

I can't just choose to not use the car - I'm being taxed on it - and that's around £80 a month. I can't fund a car myself without that help. And why should I pay tax for a benefit I don't use? And as I said before they are saying I can't give it back because it is a 'necessary tool' of my job.

I'm going to have a meeting on Thursday. I will see what higher management say.

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SSunnyFace14 · 14/08/2017 02:47

Alot of people use their work Internet for their personal use example looking at holidays and emails. Your employer can if they wished look at the data. Obviously companies normally have a procedure about what is allowed. Surely a company car is similar in that it is company property and they can add technology. No doubt the company probably receives decrease for car insurance for adding technology. I guess if you are unhappy with company car. Purchase your own car or look for a new job

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