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Discriminated for FW Request & Find Out Im Pregnant

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Fevs · 01/07/2017 06:56

All was going so well at my job for the first 6 months until I asked if I could work for 4 days (instead of 5) as I have a 2 year old.
My directors eventually approved my request but then two days before it's due to start dismiss me for absurd reasons - actually laughable.
I am currently investigating suing them for discrimination but then found out yesterday (the same day as getting dismissed) that I am pregnant!
Of course I am over the moon, we had been trying, but I do feel incredibly anxious as now I do not have a job.
It is very days, possibly 3 weeks, but what do I do now?
Look for a perm role but not mention it? Or look for maternity cover? Also I know I won't get statutory maternity but am I entitled to anything at all?!
My husband is being supportive and saying it's too essential that I do work but I want to continue working for myself too and to prevent too much of a big gap on my CV.
You could not make up the timing of this! Any help or advice much appreciated.
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Fevs · 02/07/2017 07:55

@Wh0Kn0wsWhereTheTimeGoes good point.... I work in an office so touch wood that wouldn't be required but who knows....!

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Zebrasinpyjamas · 02/07/2017 09:18

I'm sorry you are in such a stressful situation. I don't think it's immoral not to tell a future employer that you are pregnant when you are only 4weeks in.

flowery · 02/07/2017 09:51

This board is about support, yes. But it would not be supportive at all to let someone asking for advice believe that their employer has done something unlawful if that isn't the case. So people are trying to be supportive.

Before two years' service, employees are generally not able to claim unfair dismissal, so there is no need (from a legal point of view) for employers to follow a proper procedure.

One of the exceptions to the two years' service requirement to claim unfair dismissal would be if someone was dismissed for trying to exercise one of their statutory rights, such as putting in a flexible working request. That would be unusual, obviously, and a bit odd, because most employers would just refuse the request if it wasn't convenient.

Without knowing more about the background, and the reasons you were given for your dismissal, it would be impossible to say whether you might have a case for automatically unfair dismissal.

I suspect you are better off doing what you're doing, and focusing on getting a new job.

Fevs · 02/07/2017 10:14

I agree @flowery but I wasn't asking for advice re the dismissal or what I should do re that.
My question was, am I morally ok to apply for new roles newly pregnant and not tell them that I am.
Therefore I don't think there is a need for sarcastic comments (personally).
Like I said previously without understanding the Directors it is probably confusing to understand why they approved the request.
However, their reasons for dismissing took place BEFORE they approved the request.
They started recruiting for someone else BEFORE they approved the request.
They had made that decision to replace me and then said yes to 4 days.
And then dismissed me a week later and before the 4 days even began.

Knowing them and looking at that in black and white it is very clear to me that they had no intention of the 4 days ever beginning.

It's odd and hard to understand but stranger things have happened... and now I just need to try and find something new! And quick haha

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JeffVadersMum · 02/07/2017 10:18

My question was, am I morally ok to apply for new roles newly pregnant and not tell them that I am.

so why didnt you just ask that then?

Fevs · 02/07/2017 10:32

JeffVadersMum I did if you see my very first post. That was precisely what I asked.

All good now. Thanks all

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flowery · 02/07/2017 10:54

Sarcastic comments? Confused

You were the one saying the procedure they used was "illegal". People very supportively didn't want you to think that if it wasn't the case.

You're welcome, by the way. There's a sarcastic comment for you.

TittyGolightly · 02/07/2017 10:55

Your title is "discrimination for FW request".

If I posted a thread titled "advice about turtles" I'd probably get answers about turtles rather than icecream, whatever I put in the post.

TittyGolightly · 02/07/2017 10:55

The OP doesn't mean what she says though, flowery.

insancerre · 02/07/2017 11:10

I can see why the op is now jobless, anyway

WillowWeeping · 02/07/2017 11:10

To answer your question that you didn't ask at all clearly I don't think it's immoral to not tell a potential employer your pregnant.

Given the way you post in here I do think you're going to have tremendous difficulty presenting your current employment situation appropriately to potential employers.

Will you be getting a reference? What will you say about your dismissal? These are more pressing concerns I would think?

WillowWeeping · 02/07/2017 11:11

you're pregnant ffs!

Fevs · 02/07/2017 11:52

Given the way I'm posting in here? I am really confused.
Whether it was clear to all in the beginning to what I was asking I really don't understand why it is that much of an issue.

Like I said, I'm newly pregnant so keen not to get too stressed about my recently stressful situation. These last posts aren't massively helping. But thanks.
Am keen to end this convo now really. Am part of other groups who are far more positive and that's what I'm after at the moment.
Thanks to those who were constructful with their points as opposed to quite nasty.
It's a lovely day outside, let's all enjoy the sun 😀

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myrtleWilson · 02/07/2017 11:55

the thing is though fevs is that the title of your OP and indeed the first half of your first post all focus on the dismissal/discrimination so you can't really blame people for picking up on that.

Enjoy the sun

WillowWeeping · 02/07/2017 12:51

Can you honestly not see how your posts come across?! You've been evasive, snipey and lacked clarity.

People have tried to help: they asked for information relevant to providing support, given advice and pointed out that you seem to be focusing on issues that are not the most pertinent.

If you you want "aw hun" responses you are correct there are many other forums where you can get that type of "support". However you might find that in the long run meaningless platitudes and incorrect information are pretty useless.

daisychain01 · 02/07/2017 21:30

As regards Be careful about not telling new employers, depending on what your line of work is you might need to do so for health and safety reasons - when you apply for new jobs and go along for interviews there is no need to mention you are pg.

If they offer you the job, take it. No moral dilemma to worry about. They may give you a health and safety questionnaire as part of your onboarding process, which may include adjustments re disabilities etc You don't need to mention being pg even then - you may feel it's helpful to disclose, or else hold on until your pg is further advanced.

daisychain01 · 02/07/2017 21:33

If you're going for an office based job, I don't expect you will be at risk of chemicals. Thing is, not feeling you must disclose earlier than you are ready to.

StealthPolarBear · 02/07/2017 21:38

I get it i think. They approved your request because it was easier to say yes, knowing they'd never actually have to implement it.
Bur for it to be discrimination I assume it related in some way to you having a child

HundredMilesAnHour · 05/07/2017 16:06

I did not do anything majorly wrong - or wrong enough to dismiss over anyway

So OP what you're saying here is that you DID do something wrong? Just not in your eyes "majorly" wrong. Maybe your employer had a different view of "majorly". Blaming it on your flexible working request seems to be clutching at straws somewhat.

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