should i stay or should i go?

[Tortington]

it would really help me if you could give me some input. I have been asked to submitt a CV for a post in a nother firm - via my DH - who already works there. i would not be directly working with him ( phew)

ihave made a list of pro's and cons

Pros and cons

Pros.

A fresh start, i need one IM SO BORED
A new challenge ditto
A company car ? wont have to fix it. Or pay for it - THIS IS MAJOR my car is on the way out i know i have a bill of at least AT LEAST £500 when i take it on on the 1st april.
Less travelling in the long term - at the mo i cover from portsmouth to folksteone and include all of london
No evening meetings.
Equal money (more actual, but I will lose my car allowance it equals out)
Easy flow of work conversation at home.
Could look at it as a short term solution ? to kick my arse into something else.
I am depressed increasingly at the non movement of my status within this organisation
Less desk time more people time
Less politicised than this organisation

Cons
Wrapped up with dh should anything go wrong in the marriage ? and although been rocky I?m certainly not going anywhere for 5 years.
Security long term not assured rather dependant on contracts won but at least 3 years although its a perm contract.
No time flexibility with the children ? so now I work evening meetings and can use the time to get kids to appts ? but will need this less as they get older.
Loss of excellent HR package.
Thinking about poss managerial role which may appear within my team ? but not until sept ? and I am not guaranteed to get it.
My ethics around working for a charity will go out the window. I love I can say that and that I have actively looked int his field and worked in this field for years.

i am a fixture here - very comfortable know everyone - its a breeze - but increasingly i get bored - should i give up a breeze and boredom? for difficult and challengng?

whaddya tink baybee?

squeezy

cheesy

Have you spoken to your employers about your feelings with you current position?

if you're bored you need to change something and if you can't/don't want to do that at your current place you need to move.

Everything else seems secondary to that - work is so tedious when you're bored and it has a terrible tendency to spill over into what would otherwise be the non-boring bits of life.

no i havent - thanks for replying BTW much appreciated.

the onyl result as far as i can see is a greater pile of work

which is timeconsuming and demeanding becuase its timeconsuming - but its not challenging - i know my field inside out - its like volunteering for shitloads more boring dumbass crapola

but thank you for replying once again as MANY haven't your reply was much appreciated

I met my Dh at work and IMO got treated differently after we got together. I sort of lost my identity as me and became so and so's partner, (although it was an engineering firm so I was never refered to in such polite terms!)
So I'd think twice about working in the same company as your DH, even if you are in different departments.

Well you've asked for opinions so here goes:
firstly, as far as the cons are concerned, No 1 shouldn't even be a factor in your thought process. Dammit I plan on staying with my DH forever, but I could get hit by a bus tomorrow. If you think it's a legitimate Con, then maybe there's more than the job that's making you unhappy.

Secondly, if you applied for that job, and didn't get it, how would you feel?
Gutted that you didn't get the job, or gutted that you had to stay where you are?

In my experience, the best time to change jobs is when you don't particularly have to - makes you less desperate to grab the first thing that comes along.

You have to update your CV for this other job, so why don't you look and see what else is out there, or else try and see if there are any alternarve roles in your current job. One thing's for sure, it sounds like you do need to leave your current role. Life is too short to be bored / hate the job you are in.

Sorry, got a bit carried away there, and I'm sure it's totally disjointed, but HTH.

yes mrs wobble i think your right. i think i'll hand in my cv

ty waynettaslob,

i'm always looking i have jobs go public and guardian jobs e-mailed to me and ihave been looking for ages.

its rare a job comes up in the field that iw ork with a decent wage - plus a perm contract - often its govt funded for 2 years or so - so this has been the only real thing worth considering for a good few years.

but where i work has a final salary pension

think i'll give it a go and make a decision later

Why not go for it? You have nothing to lose. If there are pros to staying where you are then it won't be the end of the world if you don't get it.

For me, the major decider would be the company car. Would give my eye teeth for one of those.

me too actually, dh has a lovely car snot fair. hokey dokey im going to look at my cv.

I gave up my final salary pension to move to this job. I figured that being happier for the 30-odd years I still have left to work (gulp) was more important at this stage than what happens when I'm 70

Hmm I would have replied earlier if I'd seen the thread custy, honest

At this stage, I really think you have nothing to lose by applying. If/when you get to interview stage then it gives you the opportunity to get a better feel for the company and to envisage whether or not you would enjoy working there. As others have said, in some ways your happiness is more important than the loss of HR benefits etc.

Re the moving out of the charity sector - I kind of felt that way when I left a prestigious company - I enjoyed being able to say I was a manager for them - but I wasn't happy there and I soon got over it (though it's still nice to be able to say I worked there!). Plus - jobs don't have to be forever. We have moved on from the "work for a company for your entire working life" mindset. Don't view it from the POV of "can I see myself working for this company until I retire?" but "can I see myself working there for the next five years?". After all - within five years the company itself may change beyond all recognition/close/etc - nothing is a certainty.

Sounds like you've decided to put your CV in (good!) but HTH anyway.

Good luck BTW!

aww ty miaow

Don't be fooled into thinking you won't have to pay for the company car. You will be taxed heavily no doubt (+more if they provide fuel). How much depends on the engine + fuel type and co2 emissions.

You should look up the inland revenue site and see if you can get some figures from them. You need to know the emissions as well as the cost of the car (last time I looked at this it was list price + vat + extras). Its not the value of the car when you get it.

Other than that I think you should go for it but I would question the value of the flow of work conversation at home - does that really count as a pro.

You won't know until you take the leap and try it out.

seeing as I'm about to post something similar myself I feel duty bound to respond. One issue I would add to your lists is where does it take you? If you stay will something else come up? or will you be where you are now in 5 years? ditto if you move - does it open up other opportunities or does it close any doors? second issue would be re working in the same org as dh - even if you're not going to be working directly together will you have an impact on each other's work? Are you likely to agree on work related stuff in your out of work conversations?

re flexibility re time - first are you really sure there would be none? and if so how do you feel about using up leave? can you take half days? it's possibly not such a big deal - the advantage of using leave for haome/family stuff is you don;t feel in any way indebted iyswim - it's your entitlement.

and the othre thing is you need to talk to your would be bosses and work out exactly what your new challenges would be. Think in terms of the small picture - what would a "normal" day be like?

so. there you go. no answers - just more questions to bombard yourself with!

helpful indeed hatwoman thank you very much.

kimi - my dh has a company car and is taxed, i know its not free but thanks for telling me incase i didn't know.
offsetting a rather nice car again my pile of shit that needs something doing all the time costing hundreds seems on face value a better deal - esp when it comes to the end of the workng month ( today!) and i've got a fiver for petrol and 45p for my lunch!! but thank you kimi for telling me about the tax - its useful to know about so ty.

re the communication t ing - . i've certainly been in a similar situatin before in the marriage. and i listed it as a pro becuase i think it helps when discussing things that you know the same people - we each allow the other a different view!

in 5 years i'm likley to be where i am presently. however it offers permenant security.

5 years in the other company - i have no idea although pay is the same i would want a more senior position before leaving my present employment. security not guarenteed.

i also think this job has sapped my confidence - i used to be so very confident - and how many people challence your knowledge when you are? not many - and i miss that about myself.
i havent got a mortgage - my kids are older and i'm in 'fuck it' mode.

ty both ever so much - i think i've positivley talked myself into it.

did my CV today - few minor amendments to make

I think go for it whole heartedly and only if you get it have you a decision to make. There you go, some procrastination for you! I have a policy of trying to do this though, if I don't get the job no harm done, and you're no worse off, it you get it THEN you seriously think pros and cons. Good luck.