payrise - tell me if i should be outraged

[Tortington]

i swear, i'm just thick - i get my wage everymonth and thing how lucky i am. but a committee at work have been looking at a restructure of the pay bonus package.

we used to get annual appraisels and either inflation plus 1%, 2% or 3% depending on performance.

howver this was a pile of shite as there was only a finite amount of money in the pot and after the managers had each licked each pothers arses and given each other 3% they then gave us plebs 1 or 2% and did it on such stretched excuses it was laughable.

oh and the people at the top of their payscale couldnt get it despite their performance- WTF!

any way new thing ( whatever that may be) will not be ready for this year

and it was supposed to be ready last april

and we hae been offered for the 2nd year in a row inflation plus 2% and £500 in july.

my first thought was a slightly chirpy "cool" then office lefties ( leftier than i) started spouting about the unfairness.

should i be outraged - or should i feign outrage for effect whilst secretly spending my bonus in my head?

i know this is relative and some are less fortunate than i - but in corporate / local govt worlds does this seem a fair deal?

TIA

In local government that is more than fair. Never get any sort of bonus at all. I would be very happy with it

sounds not bad to me tbh.

i would have thought that inflation plus 2% was decent?

oh I will join you on the thick bench and say I have no idea but someone on here will

how are you doing in general?

and the bonus too - didn't think that local gov't workers got this, so that sounds good

This has just happened with my local council - all the big bods got a 3% rise and the plebs got 1-2%. I think it's unfair that everyone isn't getting the same proportion of increase. Why should you get less than the fat cats.

Yes, that pay rise might be more than hospitals, schools etc. Actually, some of us in the private sector haven't had a pay rise in years! But if they're going to apply an increase, it should be the same across the board.

Time for you to join the lefties in their chorus of disapproval me thinks!

why shouldn't rises be actually linked to performance of the individual rather than rank?

I'd say at least you're getting above inflation - dp's company has not gone above inflation in the entire time he's been there (8yrs) and so he's had to rely on promotions etc to get a proper rise. At my company our payrises are entirely linked to performance. We are given a specific rating each year and then we get a % based on that rise - its the same across the company, there are not different rules etc for managers. I think its the fairest way to do it. I think what you've got is fairish but you ought to be raising questions as to why new promised schemes have not come in - they should also consider as a company effect on staff clearly knowing what other groups have got.

if ther system was run fairly - there was enough money incase everyone performed well

and senior managers who play gold with junior managers didn't pat each other on the back and just go through the formalities.

after all the management has their 3% thee inst enough for all the rest of us to get 3%

the system was unfair.

It seems there is a finite amount of money and no matter waht way they spn it - i reckon we will get around this amount.

golf - not gold( freudian?)

I work for a huge city law firm and I haven't had a payrise at all - not even inflation - for the last three years.

but its nice to know that its fair - or more than.

thank you very much

dinosaur I am in same job and same position as you - who do you work for out of interest - a suggestive initial wil allow me to guess. I am so tired of such treatment.

I work for my local Council - think inflation plus 2% and an extra £500 in July sounds more than fair. If you're performing well you can hope for a promotion to a higher band - then presumably you will have the opportunity to progress within that band.
dh works in the private sector and one year had an £11K cut in wages to get the company out of the poo. The higher you were the bigger the cut - low grades had no cut at all. So it works both ways.

I have n't had any rise for 3 years not even inflation so I am going backwards and no promotion at all - it is quite soul destroying. However I could n't get excited about 2% either but it is better then nothing.

hs ...

Having had less than inflation for the last 3 years I would be happy. But don't let my bitterness colour your thinking - listen to those who know something.

oh. we are close. perhaps we can meet up for a coffee when i am back at work... this is quack logic but makes me feel better that this seems be a common theme and not just me!

Yes of course - can you hint by initials where you are??

I have been given inflation increases for the last 9 years (apart from two or three years when there was no increase at all). DH has had inflation only increases for the past 10 years - and his firm has difficulty recruiting and retaining staff!
Inflation plus zero is as much as one might hope for in many firms and bonuses are rare or unknown in many companies.

You should be gratefull my dh works for a big IT company and he got £500, which isn't even 1 percent.

No company has to give a payrise unless it states it in you contract.

Most comapnies are only giving 1 or 2 percent payrises.

as far as I know, we're not getting any pay rise this year. We didn't get a bonus. nor did dh. And my mortgage has just gone up again!!

I got no pay rise last year as I hadn't worked there long enough.

My colleagues got a rise marginally below inflation, and a copy of the company newsletter with a picture of the MD's new helicopter on the front.

I'd say you're doing pretty well.

ta! i'm taking the money with glee and openly complaining about the unfairness of it all.

good idea! A win - win.