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Help! Boss micro managing me and I can't take it...

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WideWebWitch · 18/05/2004 22:16

Wise mumsnetters, any views or advice? Apologies in advance if this is long but I'm desperately unhappy about this and could really do with some views.

I recently returned to work after a while as a SAHM and at first I loved it - I prefer working to being a SAHM and I'm very happy to be out there again. The job is a six month contract. I work in finance projects and suspect the dept for which I'm responsible will be closed down by the end of the year (hence the contract - I replaced a perm head). It's a sizable dept and I'm responsible for millions of pounds and a fairly large team.

The crux of my problem is my boss. He's very rarely in the same office as me so (my instigation) I send a brief weekly summary and a full prioritised listing of all issues and tasks outstanding and we speak on the phone sometimes, although he's so busy this is rarely possible.

In the 5 weeks I've been working for him I've seen him twice. One of those times was today and wasn't pleasant. Despite the fact that he has about 15 direct reports, each responsible for depts of between 4 and 50 people, he's insisting on micro managing me (don't know if he does this to others). This means I'm unable to make the smallest decision without his approval. This might be ok were he accessible but he's absolutely not and getting an answer isn't always possible. Still, I've mostly been doing it.

On one item however I didn't - the display of some stats on a white board in our office. I changed these 3 weeks ago and told him, via my weekly progress report and listing, that I'd done it. The report pointed out that the previous stats were unreliable/incorrect, needed review and showed where this review was on the priority list.

However, today I came back from lunch to find the stats board wiped clean. On asking my staff, it transpired that he'd held his hand over a member of my staff's hands while she wiped my figures off (she initially said she didn't want to change it without talking to me). As far as I'm concerned this undermined my authority in front of my whole department and made me look stupid and incompetent (I'm not, honest!). When I went to ask him why he hadn't spoken to me and asked me to change these figures if they needed changing he said 'well, I could say you didn't talk to me about it when you changed them.' Err, actually, if you read anything I sent you you'd have known I carried this out 3 weeks ago. When I said I was concerned that he'd just sent a message to the whole dept that he wasn't able to talk to me he said 'well, I could say you didn't talk to me since I didn't know you were going to change the statistics'. Aaaggh, it was in the f report you f**wit. AND YOU'RE NEVER HERE! I did point this out, politely. But hey, maybe he wants a fairly expensive dog whilst barking himself. What would you do? I'm torn between:

  • Phoning in sick tomorrow for breathing space and to see what else is out there in terms of contracts. When I was looking for work it didn't take too long for this to come up. The pay's ok but it's further away than I'd like (40 miles and 1.5 hrs/day commute)
  • Going in and telling him where to shove his micro management, crap interpersonal skills and poxy job and looking for another asap (I have to give a month notice so it would give me time)
  • Going in and asking how he proposes to manage me in a more acceptable way over the next 6 months. I know this is the mature option but atm I'm still incensed at his childish and petty behaviour. I'm used to large company culture and professionalism and this aint it.

After this incident one of my staff asked me if I had his approval when I asked her to do something, so it has had an impact on people's perception of me.

What would you do? Congratulations if you got this far, sorry it's so long.

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sis · 19/05/2004 11:27

WWW, bloody BT playing up so I lost the post I was trying to post but huge sympathies to you. Seems like you have a toddlerboss. Agree with TAC on keeping him sweet if you need the reference. Also, I know you know this, but just incase you haven't got round to it yet,remember to keep diary notes of these 'incidents' including the names of any witnesses and of course, copies of all the paperwork and a note of his failure to respond to any questions/issues you raise.

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serenequeen · 19/05/2004 14:06

hi www

from what you've written it sounds as though the best course of action might be to start looking to extricate yourself as soon as you can.

fwiw, here's my 2c worth on this:

agree with your dp's advice - come and vent your frustration and share your revenge fantasies here on mumsnet and under no circs in the office! not that you really would anyway...

i would have one go at sorting it out with the boss - explain your concerns, explain the impact on you and the team, as him for any reasons for his reaction, explore in what you/he could do differently in future. as sis says, document it all.

meanwhile, be looking around for the out... with a good cv in a good market it should only be a matter of time until something else comes along. have a good story ready for why you are leaving this contract.

obvious stuff all of it i know.

sorry you are going through this at the moment and i hope you either sort it out where you are or find something else soon.

hugs, sqxxx

prufrock · 19/05/2004 14:10

So the no logging on at work rule didn't last that long then
He sounds like an insecure tosser. Start looking for somthing else.

tigermoth · 19/05/2004 14:16

Agree that option 3 is your best bet, while you look around for another job. If this boss is a such a micro managing chauvinist, you won't be the first person he has tried to undermine - as you have found out. His reputation preceeds yours, so if your staff imply they want his approval before following your directions, try not to take it personally - very hard!!!! - but it could be they know him too well.

good luck for Friday, Pamina!

Janstar · 19/05/2004 14:17

www, I haven't read all these posts but I just wanted to let you know that a friend of mine has been off work for five months due to a breakdown caused by his boss's bullying. Two of his colleagues have gone the same way.

Some interesting things have come out of this...

My friend has kept strict records of everything relevant that has happened. Because of this he is now in a strong position to sue the company. There are many instances where the company's policy has not been followed, but my friend has stuck religiously to the book. Thus he has the unions on his side.

My friend has been advised by a psychiatrist he consulted through the company to sue the company for personal injury. Apparently there is no law against bullying!! But since my friend has suffered a breakdown due to this man he is able to sue the company for personal injury.

In the long run if these things grow into a dispute, the person who has followed company policy to the letter and kept clear records of each incident is the one who is going to win.

On the other side of the coin, my dh has had problems with a member of his staff. He went to HR for guidelines and there were so many points he had to consider when dealing with her. If he got any one of them wrong the unions would be down on him like a ton of bricks.

So I would say, keep strict records, have a chat with HR, and consult your union as well.

Good luck.

willow2 · 19/05/2004 14:43

Good luck Pamina!

Marina · 19/05/2004 16:42

www, Pamina, I wish I had some ultra-sensible advice to add to all the good tips here but I work in the bizarre realms of local government where the only thing that is micromanaged is the tea kitty
Best of luck to you both, these eejit men don't deserve such good staff.
Has anyone heard of FI? I think it is a management consultancy that was started by two women after they'd had it to HERE with tosser male bosses. Maybe you two should do lunch?

motherinferior · 19/05/2004 19:03

Thinking about it, you know, Willow's given you MUCH the best advice

eddm · 19/05/2004 19:15

MI and Willow are right.. but wouldn't two bricks, either side of his vitals, be even better?

Lisa78 · 19/05/2004 19:20

so how did it go today WWW?

WideWebWitch · 19/05/2004 21:15

God, you're all so brilliant and I just laughed out loud at the suggestion of 2 bricks! Thank you! Documented all my concerns in a one page exec summary, couched in professional language blah blah. Finally got a meeting with him at 4.50pm, NOT great for someone who is supposed to finish at 5.30pm. I wouldn't mind if I gave a toss about the job but anyway. AND it went on til 6.15 (didn't have my watch on so didn't realise this til I got out - dp was pissed off and so was I). Within 2 mins he'd cooked his goose with me really since he looked at my one pager, said 'yeah yeah, I've skim read it, now, let's look at the issue list shall we?' So he proved himself to be:
a) none too bright
b) patronising
That's so not a good combination! When I asked him to explain the purpose of the white board (I know, I know, but I really thought if I understood why it was supposedly important etc when we got to that item) he said it was to be used as a motivational tool. I nearly laughed since I think he's demonstrated amply that he knows very very little about motivating staff, the wanker. Anyway, the upshot is that I'm looking around and yay, he's out of the office for the next 7 working days at least so that's lots of time for job hunting. It's very easy to explain why I'm leaving the contract: it's miles away (200 miles driving a week = 1.5 hrs commute/day) plus it's a contract and I want a) a permanent job ideally but b) failing that, something not as far away. Where I work is very much considered the sticks and no-one commutes there so this won't surprise anyone. As you could also see earlier, I have internet access at work Pamina, I'm so sorry things haven't improved for you. Ha ha Marina at the tea float!Sq, tigermoth, Prufrock, Janstar, thanks.

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WideWebWitch · 19/05/2004 21:16

I came home really angry and reading all this and laughing about it has made me feel loads better.

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Tinker · 19/05/2004 23:37

He is a tosser isn't he? When you do leave say "Oh and btw, the your breath smells". He'll never know but he'll always worry.

Tinker · 19/05/2004 23:37

the?

Ghosty · 20/05/2004 02:46

WWW ... just saw this ... sorry you are having a crap time of it at the moment.
I love the term 'Micro Management' ... that is exactly what my old boss used to do and it drove me insane ... and eventually drove me to SAHMhood on the other side of the world
I wish I could give you some constructive advice but I never know what to do to help in these sorts of situations ... perhaps that old mangle ought to come out again
The man is clearly a prat ... time for WWW to look for a new job??
Oh, and Pamina, good luck with your interview!

robinw · 20/05/2004 06:41

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aloha · 20/05/2004 10:23

What a tosser he is. Yeeuch! Can you not stitch him up with HR before you go? That, or the brick.

WideWebWitch · 20/05/2004 20:46

Hey just to let anyone who is interested know, I went to HR today and complained and they said 'yep, we know he's like this, you're not the first to have said it.' She also said that he's not going to be in much over the next few weeks and that her boss used to share an office with him. When I said So, did she get on with him well then? HR woman said 'well he thought they did' with that emphasis! So, having told her (and emailed her my 1 pager should she need to pass it on within the company ha ha) I felt a lot better and decided to stay until I find something else. Apparently he went in to see HR immediately after me and asked what our meeting had been about. Err, durr! What do you think it was about, you plank? But he didn't talk to me or ask me since he's so bad at communicating he's incapable of it. He's also promoted the v young woman he's shagging, oh, it's all sooo professional. Anyway, feel sure I'll find something else soon. In the meantime I'm doing what little is asked of me but not working that hard tbh. Hey, what's the point? He doesn't want me to anyway, since he's given me no authority to actually achieve anything. Have realised today that what's behind it is probably that he's threatened by the possibility of my discovering major problems or flaws in his stats/dept because he would like to be able to tell everyone the dept is great, running really well and it's ok to transfer it to another office. If only he had told me that at the start - I'd have even proved it for him if I'd have known that was my remit! Or maybe I'd have told him he didn't need someone like me, a monkey could do it. What a bad manager and true chauvinist tosser he is! Thank you so much everyone. Here endeth the tale

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