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Holiday for term time only

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Verbena37 · 03/09/2015 20:28

Have just tried working out my annual leave entitlement on gov.uk but n confused.

Please could someone work out how many days paid leave I'm entitled to if I work 12.5 hours a week for 36 weeks a year?
It says everybody is entitled to 5.6 weeks but obviously that's full time.

TIA.

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Yellowpansies · 03/09/2015 20:31

I would assume 32/52 of the 5.6 weeks, which is about 3.4 weeks. But each of your weeks is 12.5 hours of course.

Verbena37 · 03/09/2015 21:05

My employer said I have 8 days but I can't work out how.

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DoreenLethal · 03/09/2015 21:11

How many hours a day do you work?

3.4 weeks x 12.5 hours will give you 42.5 hours - so if you work an average of 5 hours a day gives you 8.5 days...but for part timers it is best to calculate them hourly.

LongDistanceLove · 03/09/2015 21:21

Based on 36 weeks at 12.5 hours a week gives you 54.2 hours holiday.

That was using the government calculator thing.

Verbena37 · 03/09/2015 21:37

Thank you.
I do 6 hrs one day and 6.5 the other.

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HunterHearstHelmsley · 04/09/2015 23:18

Which days do you work?

Verbena37 · 05/09/2015 00:02

How is that relevant?

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m0therofdragons · 05/09/2015 00:08

Is that 8 days plus pro rata bank holidays? 8 days would be 4 weeks for you so that plus pro rata bhols sounds roughly right. As you do different hours each day you should ask for holiday done as hours so you don't lose out taking the shorter day as your day off iyswim

Verbena37 · 05/09/2015 00:12

Thank you. I was checking it wasn't too much that my employer had told me. I thought it seemed quite a lit for only working 36 weeks a year.

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SueDunome · 05/09/2015 08:53

You will have entitlement to holiday, but it will be paid to you as part of your salary I imagine. Your contract requires you to work during term time and you will get the holidays off, some of which will be paid to you within your enhanced salary. You won't have an entitlement to take any days off during term time.

Verbena37 · 05/09/2015 08:57

Oh. Really?
I don't actually have a contract and I'm paid weekly.
I could work in the holidays if I wanted....I choose not to.

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Verbena37 · 05/09/2015 09:01

So what about people who work say four days a week. That's still not full time but they're entitled to take holiday.

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LIZS · 05/09/2015 09:01

Your salary will probably reflect 41/52 ish of an equivalent 12.5 position all year round , to take into account the Al allowance. You will get bank holidays where they fall on a working day (May BH is probably the only one) but no right to other days off during termtime as you are paid in lieu.

LIZS · 05/09/2015 09:06

So you choose when you take leave. If you are paid weekly is it at an hourly rate ?

Verbena37 · 05/09/2015 09:08

Yes at an hourly rate.

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Verbena37 · 05/09/2015 09:09

I obviously don't get any pay when I don't work during school holidays.

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Verbena37 · 05/09/2015 09:11

So the 36 weeks I do work, surely gets pro rated down and leaves me with 8 days leave for the days I do work in the year....which I can either take as holiday or have as paid days before the end of the tax year......I thought. If it's AL entitlement, surely you can take the days as leave.

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LIZS · 05/09/2015 09:12

The holiday pay will probably be included in your hourly rate then. So as you work , you accumulate pay in lieu of actual time off.

Verbena37 · 05/09/2015 09:14

It isn't included in my actual pay.

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Verbena37 · 05/09/2015 09:14

Sorry, it isn't included in my hourly rate.

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LIZS · 05/09/2015 09:18

Are you sure? The legislation on this changed fairly recently.

SueDunome · 05/09/2015 09:28

So, are you saying that you're a casual employee (without a contract?). A contract doesn't have to be written, it can be verbal. It is an agreement between an employee and employer to commit to certain conditions of employment, including regular hours if this is applicable.
If you're a casual employee, as a PP has said, you will accrue holiday pay entitlement on an hourly basis (the statutory rate is 12.07% of your hourly rate). This will be held for you in a pot. You will need to speak to your employer to ask how this is paid to you. You may need to claim it during the holiday period.
Is this job in a school? Normally, term time only staff would be paid their salaries (including holiday pay) in twelve equal installments throughout the year, so they would still receive salary payments during the holidays.

Spidertracker · 05/09/2015 09:39

My contract used to be like this, I work in a school.
I put in my time sheet and the following month I got paid for the hours I worked, and my accrued holiday pay (a percentage of my hours).
I was not paid in September as I did not work any hours in August. My pay varied depending how many weeks I had worked. I was not entitled to take days annual leave in term time.
I am now on a 20 hour contract that means I work 39 weeks but am paid for 43 and the amount is divided by 12 so I get equal amounts each month, with no Annual leave to choose to take in term time.

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