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Bank Holidays for Part Time Staff

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Toopsy85 · 16/03/2015 21:23

Just a quick one..

Do part time workers get time off in lieu for BH's even if they don't work them?

For example, if I work ties, weds, thurs and most bank hols are Mondays, will I get an extra day off in lieu for them? (Like we do if Xmas falls at weekend)

Or am I better to work mon, tues, Wednesday so that I get bank holiday Mondays off?

Just wondering as I don't want to do myself out of the extra days off by not being scheduled to work them - if that makes sense!

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LIZS · 16/03/2015 21:27

Depends on the way the company allocates bh leave . If your days are specified you may not get the equivalent for the days you work, if you work x hours per week you may get that % of full time bh hours to redeem against those which fall on days you work as part of annual leave.

IfMaybeBut · 16/03/2015 21:28

Totally depends on the company's policy. I worked somewhere where you just got it if it fell on your working day and now I work where everyone gets them pro rata to use whatever days they do work

OllyBJolly · 16/03/2015 21:29

There's no requirement to give bank holidays off (unless specifically mentioned in your contract). Employers must give all workers 28 days holiday (pro-rated for part time).

You should not get fewer days off because you don't work a particular day.

LIZS · 16/03/2015 21:30

Sorry , only for days you work ie not those which fall on a Monday if that is not a regular working day.

BerylStreep · 16/03/2015 21:33

Are Bank Holidays given on top of the annual leave allowance or as part of it?

What you need to do is look at what FT workers are entitled to. For example, if it is 25 days annual leave plus 8 days public holidays, then you are entitled to a pro rata amount.

If on the above example, you are working 3/5 of the time, you would be entitled to 25 + 8 i.e. 33 days x 3/5 = 19.25 days. If you work Tues, Wed & Thurs, then you are entitled to take your days when you are due to work, IYSWIM.

You should not be disadvantaged by not working a Monday.

Lorelei353 · 16/03/2015 21:34

Where I work (4 days a week) I get 4/5 of holiday entitlement of full time staff. The total I get includes be so whenever I don't work a bit Monday it comes out of my holiday entitlement.. Overall I'm worse off than colleagues as it leaves me with less than 4/5s of my other holiday days.

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 16/03/2015 21:36

If you don't work on Mondays you should get it either in lieu or made up by pay proportional to the hours you work. So if you work 3 days you should get 3/5 of a day off in lieu or 3/5 day extra pay. If you did work Mondays it would be the other way round, that is deducted from your holiday or your pay. Same for Good Friday and the Christmas / New Year holidays. Either way you should be no better or worse off than any other employee. When I worked like this it was just calculated once a year and an extra payment or deduction made from your salary. So in a nutshell, those that worked Mondays got more time off and an annual deduction, those that didn't work Mondays got less time off and an annual bonus.

ginmakesitallok · 16/03/2015 21:36

I get my public hold pro rata, then added on to my annual leave. I can choose whether to work a ph or if I take it off it just comes off my annual leave allowance. For folk who don't work Mondays the ph allowance gets added on and they take it whenever they want.

sleepyhead · 16/03/2015 21:38

As far as I know, they are not allowed to discriminate against you as a part time worker, so if bank holidays are given to full time staff in addition to their annual leave allocation you are entitled to the same pro rata.

If full time workers get 28 days A/L which includes BH, then you are entitled to 28 days pro rata.

They aren't allowed to have a situation where part time staff who happen to work on days that more BH fall get more time off than part timers who work the same number of hours but at other times.

skyeskyeskye · 16/03/2015 21:42

I do payroll for several businesses. All staff get 28 days including8 days bank holiday but pro rata. So as somebody posted above, work 3 full days, get 3/5. Work 12 hours, get 12/37.5. Or whatever the standard weeks hours are.

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Toopsy85 · 16/03/2015 23:12

Hi everyone thanks so much for your replies that's helped a lot

Currently I'm full time (on Mat leave) and being full time I get 20 days holiday plus 8 bank holidays.

I am going in tomorrow to discuss when I return from Mat leave and ideally I want to work tues, wed and thurs - so the general census is they should give me pro rata bank holidays, so working 3/5 days I should be entitled to 3/5ths of the 8 bank holidays, is this correct?

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Toopsy85 · 16/03/2015 23:14

Would that be 4.8 days? (8/5x3)

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herethereandeverywhere · 16/03/2015 23:21

yes and they would usually round it up to the nearest day. BUT when a bank holiday falls on a Tues/Wed/Thur (think possibly Xmas and New Year) you MUST take those as holiday and deduct from your holiday entitlement.

BerylStreep · 16/03/2015 23:27

3/5 of 28 days is 16.8 days.

You will need to use some of your 16.8 days if you want to take any bank holidays which fall on your working days (I don't think any do this year - the exceptions are likely to be Easter Tuesday, and Christmas / New Year depending when it falls). Otherwise you have 16.8 days to take when you want.

The other thing, are you aware you are entitled to carry forward your entire annual leave allowance for when you have been off on maternity leave, including public holidays?

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Toopsy85 · 16/03/2015 23:28

Ok I see, so full time get 20 days plus BH so I think for 3 days mine would be 12 days plusthe 5 BH's (rounded up), so that's 17 days holiday but I would need to take Xmas, Boxing Day and NYD out of that if they fall on a tues/wed/thurs, is that right?

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BerylStreep · 16/03/2015 23:30

Correct.

BackforGood · 16/03/2015 23:36

Which is why it's better not to work on a Monday, because if a BH is on a Monday (which 4 of them always are....1 is always a Friday, and 3 move with the year) you have to take them, even though you'll only get 3/5 of the leave hours for each one.

However - check specifically, as different employers work out their leave differently.

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Toopsy85 · 17/03/2015 00:30

Hi beryl sorry my last post was a cross post with yours as I didn't see your before I posted mine!!

I knew I was entitled to my holiday still, I was going to add this onto the end of my mat leave, but no didn't realise I was entitled to bank hols while I am off aswell so that's interesting thank you so much

The reason I don't particularly want to work Mondays are as I'm a business development manager (sales) and sales tend to not be as good on Mondays and Fridays as people are more busy with other things, so wanted to work on the days where it's best to earn commission but didn't want to loose bank hols because of it

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BerylStreep · 17/03/2015 08:13

If your employer queries it, there is a stated case on the subject of carrying forward bank holidays from maternity leave. If you need it, post on the thread and I will try to dig it out.

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Toopsy85 · 17/03/2015 16:18

Hi Beryl, thanks for all of your help they were great actually and knew their stuff. I just wasn't sure so wanted to know myself first. They have given me all my holidays plus the 6 bank holidays that would have passed by the time I go back (not going back till October),

Agreed to 3 days per week, tues/wed/thurs and I will have bh's pro rata too

Thanks everyone for your help, it's very much appreciated

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EmilyMaud · 17/03/2015 16:37

Hi,

I am in the NHS and work Tues, Thurs and Fri. I get bank hols pro rata based on my hours. I used to only get bank hols at Xmas but the rules were changed. It drove me mad as other part timers, who worked Monday's, got loads of extra time off (even though we did the same hours)!

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