public holidays and part time working

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Been working part time for 5years and thought I understood my ph allowance, but now I'm confused.

What I've done so far, pro rataed my annual leave and ph entitlement in hours and just add them together. When I take time off (whether ph or annual leave) I just subtract it from overall entitlement and it goes into the system as annual leave.

However, today I noticed I'd been paid a ph entitlement when I'd been off. Called payroll and they said that the rules on enhancements had changed and that if we were in the system as being on annual leave on ph then we automatically get paid an enhancement because enhancements are paid for rostered hours rather than worked hours. If system says we're on ph then we don't get the enhancement.

OK, so answer is just to put ph into the system when I'm off on a pH. Except, because I only get pro rated phs I have to use annual leave to take some of them? So, for 2 phs a year I will have to use annual leave, and will be in the position where I'll get paid an enhancement? Makes no sense to me.

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me either, sounds complicated. I would seek clarification from HR if I were you.

Oh God no, they understand holiday allowances even less than I do! Will just have to get my boss to add a note not to pay me enhancements. Thing is they've only recently changed the system, so there must be hundreds of staff in same position, and I bet not all of them are letting pay roll know they've been overpaid.

I thought if you worked a day adjacent to the ph, either before or after, that you get paid for it. And if you don't, you don't.

So Monday is a public holiday but you don't normally work monday, however as you work tuesday, you get the monday as PH.

I've never had PH pro-rated while working part time, as it works out per the above.

Nope that's definitely not how it works herroyalnotness.

Feeling thankful for my past employer now!

We calculate part time bank holidays as follows:

Number of bank hols in a year (8) divided by 5 (days in week) multiplied by number of days you work (eg 3)= 4.8 ( we'd round this up to 5)
Now look at a calendar and your shift patter eg mon - fri and count how many bank holidays in the holiday year fall on your shift pattern.
Say if this figure is 7 you have gained 2 extra bank holidays that you are not entitled to, in this situation we would make a deduction from your annual holiday leave of 2 days.
Say there were only 3 days that fell on your shift pattern you would have missed out on 2 that you are entitled to and so we would add these days to your holiday entitlement.
This way it ensures all part timers receive their entitlement of bank holidays no matter what shift you work.
Hope this helps?!

We just give Ph and AL pro rata

So if you work 0.5 WTE you get 0.5 times the allocated days . For us that's 25 AL and 12 PH

It doesn't matter where the days fall in relation to what days you work .

So part time employees who work a Monday usually run out of Ph by the end of the calendar year . If they want to get paid for a days holiday later in the year, they can allocate it as annual leave. Or ask if they can work an extra day in lieu