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What's the best way to get into HR?

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DistressedAndAlarmed · 27/01/2015 18:45

I want a change of career and was thinking HR might be right for me. Would it be better to jump straight in at a trainee level and work my way up or to do a course? Any advice appreciated, thanks.

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treaclesoda · 30/01/2015 12:42

Heels I would love to do that course. But I can't get onto a course at my local college until I can find a job in HR - the demand is such that they prioritise people who are being supported by their employer, and I can't find a job in HR. I can't afford the fees for distance learning (and have had my fingers burnt badly before when I sacrificed already scarce money for an online course through a supposedly reputable provider and it all went disastrously wrong). I'm registered with agencies, and have been for many years, but none of them are willing to put me forward for HR jobs because I don't have the experience. I've never worked anywhere that allowed you to move over to another department to gain experience or to move into your chosen field, they've all been very rigid.

I'm on a waiting list to do voluntary work with a charity, and I'm hoping that when I get in there, I might be able to get some HR experience.

And if I ever did get an interview for a position, does telling them that I have desperately wanted to work in this field for almost 20 years mark me out as someone determined, who won't give up? Or does it just make them think 'well, if no one has wanted you all this time, there must be a good reason for that' and lessen my chances. It is such a dilemma.

InJillianWeTrust · 30/01/2015 12:49

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Heels99 · 30/01/2015 12:55

How many people work in your company jillion?

Heels99 · 30/01/2015 12:55

Treacle soda what is your current job?

treaclesoda · 30/01/2015 12:59

Heels I'm currently a sahm, but all my jobs before that have been in finance.

tomatoplantproject · 30/01/2015 13:12

It might be easier to get in to a comp & bens (compensation and benefits) role as an initial step - easier to transition to from a finance role and using your existing skills.

BictoriaVeckham · 30/01/2015 19:44

Really surprised by that... Where I've worked there's always been one HR woman (always a woman!) and she deals with the hiring, firing, disciplinaries, pay etc.... Maybe the roles are only split in larger companies?

Depends on the size of the Company.

Small organisations may have a generalist HR / Finance person who covers both HR practices and Payroll (or outsource the payroll and deal with the transactional / inputting side) and they are probably the Company secretary too or PA as there isn't a need for a HR person. They even be unqualified and have just picked up aspects of the role over time and do an ok job at it.

Medium size companies will likely have a payroll person, normally sits under finance but has links to HR.

Larger companies are likely to have Payroll Manager and 1 / 2 Payroll admin. It's likely to sit under 'Comp & Bens' under HR or Finance; and would deal with everything from payroll to loans, cycle to work schemes, pensions, pay reviews, pay scales etc etc. It's a huge area and is very specialist and boring so it pays well in my experience as there aren't many people who specialise in this area.

Payroll = numbers and a lot of detail, excel, inputting, tax info, pensions etc.

HR = development, strategy linking to people strategy and other HR plans like training, recruitment, performance of the business.

They are very different to me. I now have overall accountability of payroll (£7.5m per year salary bill) but I don't personally pay it, the payroll dept do. But I have to coordinate the right information to be sent to payroll if that makes sense.

Queenofknickers · 30/01/2015 19:56

Don't do it. Admittedly I'm deeply scarred by 20 years in HR in banking where I was persistently bullied and told to do things that I felt were morally wrong until I had a breakdown. HR was the most common profession in the psychiatric hospital by far. Sad because there are some truly wonderful people in HR.

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