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on the verge of accepting new job.... but now?

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paddingtonbear1 · 13/09/2006 15:30

Further to my previous conversation, I was about to take a new job but wasn't 100% sure. I work for a small IT firm and, although I don't dislike the company, my job was going nowhere fast and my skills were getting out of date - which is career suicide in IT! To cut a long story short, I wasn't actually looking for another job but ended up being offered one by a large international IT firm. The job sounded good with good prospects and I was about to take it, but it would be FT and I'm PT at the moment (have been since dd was born, she is now 3). My boss was on holiday but I've just spoken to him and he doesn't want me to leave, and he's promised me most of what I would want (not more money, but that wasn't an issue anyway). I can work what hours I like, some from home and some in support etc. I can't get flexi time or reduced hours with the new firm. At the moment I can still take the new job - I've filled in all the forms, even the one which gives them consent to get a medical report from my doctor - is this normal with big firms? I'd just be concerned about what would happen if dd was ill, or when she went to school (we have no family backup) and I was busy doing overtime (which is the norm at project end in big firms - we don't get that at the moment).
Sorry for the rambling on, thanks for bearing with it! Not sure what to do still but I need to decide today!

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SenoraPostrophe · 13/09/2006 15:38

no contest I say - stay where you are!

I disagree that out of date skills is "career suicide" though - there are still jobs for cobol programmers. but if it bothers you that much, can't you keep your skills up to date in your spare time?

Tinker · 13/09/2006 15:43

Don't underestimate flexibility and a boss who wants you. Stay.

pooka · 13/09/2006 15:45

Stay where you are - the flexibility will make life much easier when juggling your home and work lives.

DominiConnor · 13/09/2006 16:01

I'm a pimp who used to be a programmer and although I don't know your boss, I'm very sceptical of promises made to retain IT people. There is also a commonly held figure that about 2/3 of people who are draqgged bakc like you are gone within a year anyway.

None of the firms we deal with ask for medical reports for anyone earning less than 75K and that's an insurance requirement because of the large exposure.
However one firm we never ever deal with is EDS, and they do this sort of thing.

I don't know why I keep butting heads with Senapostrophe, but she is dead wrong on "career suicide", the game is very buzzword driven, you need new ones all the time.
Frequently I come across people who've slipped behind and it can be quite sad. And yes it happened to me once, was quite bloody.

It is very hard to get good skill improvement in your "spare time". I found that when I was single, for someone with children, it's almost certainly just a route to stress and exhaustion.
Employers give little weight to self taught skills, and usually demand that you've done it in "real life".

It partly comes down to how much you trust your boss, and whether he actually can deliver on these promises, not just if he is honourable.

You also need to get some observables in this process. A specific commitment to training, and provision of equipment for home working. And for the avoidance of doubt "training" is not a vague promise that if something suitable turns up they will try. It is you finding a course that extends your skill base, and chose by you for that specific purpose.

You need to do some calculations on child care, and include in that cover for sickness etc.

Thus you should not turn down the big firm yet.

If you want a chat in a less public forum, I'm [email protected]

SenoraPostrophe · 13/09/2006 16:53

well whatever. I am an IT employer though and I give much more weight to self taught skills (with evidence obv) than some crappy company course. but my point was that actually depending on what you're doing, things don't change that fast. there is still a huge demand for knowledge of windows 2000/old versions of php/cobol/C++ (as opposed to C#) etc.

paddingtonbear1 · 13/09/2006 17:07

Thanks for all the replies. I think there would be more job variety and career progression possibilities at the new firm, but what probably goes with that is extra hours and stress - and of course there's not just me to think about now, there's dd and dh. I think I might stay and see how it goes, but will make the final decision tonight.

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