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Suspended and disciplinary hearing

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Holamum · 20/03/2014 10:33

My friend has been suspended from work and I am her shoulder to cry on. I want to get an idea of her chances of success.

The allegations are that she has been rude to staff and clients, with some even saying that she is racist. All the statements are consistent with each other.

My friend said that it is a group of people at work who have got together and conspired against her.

What are her likely defences in the disciplinary hearing?

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FabULouse · 20/03/2014 12:51

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Holamum · 20/03/2014 13:06

Yes they have had statements for staff, and one client.

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flowery · 20/03/2014 13:34

What her defence is will depend on whether there is any truth at all to the allegations. Is there? I agree with Fab it seems unlikely that a client would have been persuaded to make completely fabricated allegations in writing.

Technical · 20/03/2014 13:46

If you're honest with yourself/her, is she the kind of person who might have behaved the way she's accused of?

With so many statements, I agree with the others, that it's unlikely that they're all untrue.

In terms of her position, her best chance of success will be if she can show disciplinary procedures haven't been followed properly.

Holamum · 20/03/2014 14:47

All the statements are coniststent in saying that she "ignores" them all and they think she is rude. Her defence is that they make unwholesome comments, and that's why she ignores them - she doesn't want to get involved.

If I am honest, she can behave that way if something offends her.

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Technical · 20/03/2014 14:49

So might she be able to make some sort of counter claim? If they've been behaving in an offensive way towards her?

Holamum · 20/03/2014 14:54

Yeah a counter claim is the best way forwards I think. The client is not very reliable either. Thanks.

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fascicle · 20/03/2014 16:04

It all sounds a little odd, especially since your friend's employer is suspending her during the process.

Has your friend (and have you) seen the complaints, or a description of the complaints? What did the client say, and what was the basis for the accusation of racism? If your friend does ignore colleagues, is it just their 'unwholesome comments' or could it extend to ignoring instructions, work communications etc?

Where the staff and client complaints made at broadly the same time and did any of the staff complaints refer to the incident(s) raised by the client?

Technical · 20/03/2014 16:09

The term "unwholesome comments" stuck out for me too? Is your friend from a different religious background to her colleagues?

flowery · 20/03/2014 16:23

Have you actually seen all the statements OP?

It would be unusual for someone to be suspended if all they are accused of is ignoring people, and it's difficult to see how someone could claim she is racist if all she's done is ignore people.

Presumably she didn't feel these "unwholesome" comments were sufficiently offensive to put in a grievance about them, but they could constitute mitigating circumstances. Ideally she would have raised these comments as an issue with her manager in the past.

Holamum · 20/03/2014 16:37

The client was the person who made the complaint that got my friend suspended. Client is only one claiming racism. Client might be an unreliable witness - has mental health issues - would that matter?

As part of the investigation staff were interviewed. Staff made statements that were consistent about my friend ignoring them and being rude. None of the staff mention anything about racism.

I saw statements. A lot of them are saying that they will leave if my friend is reinstated in her job - would that sway things?

Friend normally gets excellent feedback for her work. It's mainly the social issues.

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Blu · 20/03/2014 18:01

She's been suspended pending investigation and any ensuing hearing - o the other staff have no business to talk about 're-instated'. That sounds like work place bullying, maybe.

Is she a member of a union at all? Does she have legal costs as part of her home contents insurance? Many home contents insurance policies include legal costs. She should ask , and if so she could get support form an Employment Lawyer if she gets dismissed.

If they call her to a disciplinary hearing she should not go in alone. The case against her and the evidence should be given to her in advance, in writing.

FunkyBoldRibena · 20/03/2014 18:07

Saying they will leave if reinstated is a red flag for bullying. If they just had concerns they would surely rather it was sorted than all agree that they want her to leave.

fascicle · 20/03/2014 18:44

How long has your friend worked there - long enough to be protected against unfair dismissal?

As Blu says, your friend's colleagues are not in a position to demand that she doesn't return. If she has an otherwise good record, and if the client's claims are spurious/without foundation, then it sounds like she has a good case for defending herself against the allegations.

Holamum · 20/03/2014 18:56

She has been there 4 years. She thinks she can prove the client to be an unreliable witness, the other staff just don't like it when she ignores them bitching and gossiping - they think she is rude.

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