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Is a non-registered employer still an employer, or something else?

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karatebo · 08/01/2014 18:35

I'm about to start employing a nanny for just 4.5 hours a week, paying £8 per hour, so well below the threshold for NI and PAYE. She's a student, and doesn't currently have any other jobs, so according to this HMRC page, and for good measure this HMRC page too, I don't need to formally register as an employer. (I'm intending to write into the contract that she must let me know if she takes on any other paid work, as I know I would then need to register).

My first question is, if I'm not registered with HMRC as an employer, can I still call myself an employer in the contract, or should I call myself something else?

Also, would she be counted as an employee, or a visitor, or something else for home-insurance purposes? Will I be caught between a rock and a hard place where she isn't covered by my standard home insurance because I am employing her, but I can't get employer's liability insurance because I'm not formally registered as an employer. [Ok, so I probably need to look at the small print of the insurance policies for the answers, but if anyone has experience of this in the meantime, please shout up].

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Picturesinthefirelight · 08/01/2014 18:45

Yes you are an employer - just not registered under the PAYE scheme.

You need to get her to sign a P46 declaration them even if she goes on to take on other work you still don't have to register (but they do).

You can get employer liability insurance. I have it & I'm not registered with HMRC.

Picturesinthefirelight · 08/01/2014 18:46

However some home insurers include domestic employees or will include it as an added extra.

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