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KIT day payment - pretty certain employer bang to rights but I need a rant.

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dizzy77 · 03/09/2013 21:52

Firstly, I acknowledge I am lucky. My employer has an above minimum EMP package and agreed to my flexible working request when I returned to work after having DS1 with minimal negotiation that I had accounted for already so was fine to let the point slide.

Did a KIT day last month after asking to come in to catch up with various incredibly busy people, suggesting a few weeks later in the year I couldn't do so someone in our team could find the least bad day to meet them all. Got a message saying "looked at availabilities, you could either come in in October or next week", so I chose next week. I worked 5 hours that day and had already mentally spent the extra money I was expecting.

So my expectation was I'd see a 5 hours pay on my payslip (and in the bank) outside of the 90% of salary I realise I am still lucky to be receiving as EMP for about another week. Actually, of course what I got was less than 10% of my daily rate. In my brain, the KIT day payment didn't cover the cost of my train ticket and things are tight already.

If I'd had a nice day wafting round the office catching up with people over coffee etc perhaps I wouldn't have minded so much but actually it was 5 hours of pretty intense catch-up meetings with my entire chain of management whilst I tried to keep 10 week old DS2 from crying. The last meeting was my annual salary/bonus review meeting which did not meet even my especially low expectations being £0 in total. The office was almost silent, my team had been dispersed by a recent hot desk policy and I was struggling with the terrible ill fitting maternity clothes necessary as nothing else event faintly office-like would have gone over my body. I have learned it is almost impossible to project a professional aura when you've had no sleep and have an infant strapped to your chest who you must sway constantly to stop him from screaming the place down.

I've checked the legislation and the policy and I'm sure I was told about it back in the mists of time when I initially notified HR, I know they're within rights to do this it just feels like a kick from an organisation that is large, profitable and doesn't have to be quite so mean. But they are, that's why they're profitable. It reminds me of my low value as a flexibly working parent beyond being a contributor to the statistic they can add to their various award applications shouting about what a family friendly employer they are.

No advice required (unless by some magic this was all illegal and I should sue). Just some supportive words and the chance to get this off my chest. And perhaps the satisfaction that someone else who searches "payment for KIT day" finds it so isn't quite as disappointed as me. My learning is not to bother going in until later in my leave (like I did last time) so it comes as extra money.

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chanie44 · 03/09/2013 22:01

At my place of work, we will top up pay to a days full pay. So, if you are receiving full pay, you don't get anything extra and whilst on smp, we top up pay to a days pay, but including smp.

It seems fair to me, as you don't have to work them.

InTheRedCorner · 03/09/2013 22:13

I assumed kit days were paid at full pay Confused

I'm sorry this wasn't explained to you properly before mentally spending though.

ilovemountains · 03/09/2013 22:31

We only get a days pay if we work a standard length day, in the office during normal office hours, and cannot do childcare at the same time. Perhaps your company has a similar policy?

dizzy77 · 03/09/2013 22:33

Thank you for replies. Chanie, "topping up" is a good term and is helping me see this as fair. Tbh this is the latest in a string of relatively minor and rationally fair disappointments in the organisation which I was on the brink of leaving before my first BFP. Again, not rational or logical but I feel "owed" my mat leaves/pay etc after many years of giving them my butt. I can be quite dramatic when peed off then I calm down later.

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flowery · 04/09/2013 08:30

It does sound like there's a lot more to it in terms of why you are feeling this way. But if I'm understanding this correctly, you are being paid at 90% of normal earnings at the moment normally, but for this time you were going in to work, you were expecting to be paid at 190% of normal earnings? Apologies if I'm wrong but if that's the case that was a bit unrealistic to be honest, and not "mean" of your employer.

I think the lesson for anyone googling as you mention is to make sure they've asked beforehand what the pay arrangements are, or checked the policy, plus if they are on a good enhanced pay arrangement, to be aware that it may not feel worth it to do KIT days during that time.

On the plus side, it sounds like they were flexible enough to allow you to bring your baby to all those meetings, which is fantastic and unusual, and at least saved you the hassle and expense of childcare for that time.

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