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I've been given 2 weeks notice to leave, advice much needed!

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TheBreastmilksOnMe · 11/08/2013 20:12

Here's the background. I'm self-employed and I've been running my business for 18months above another business (separate). I pay rent weekly to the owner of the business below mine and she pays rent for her business to the owner of the property that houses both our businesses. So I sub-rent?

Anyway, I have kept myself to myself since the beginning really as the owner of the other business is not someone I would ever get on with outside of work. She is quite an aggressive person, very gobby, in my eyes unprofessional in that she talks badly of her clients, swears in front of them and is incredibly tactless. So I keep out of her way but she comes to me every so often for a treatment and we 'get on' ok. I would never let on that I dislike her as obviously I wouldn't be renting her room if she knew.

A while ago I borrowed an item from her salon for a home visit, has wasn't at work for me to ask but with the intention of returning it the next day but took it home in my car, took it out to put some shopping in and basically forgot to bring it back. My fault entirely.

One morning last week she asked me if I had seen her item, I apologised and explained I'd borrowed it and I would bring it back the next day. She was annoyed, said 'but it's mine!' And huffed off.

I thought to myself, ok, I should have brought it back but also felt a tad annoyed for her for being hypocritical and reacting as she did as for about 6mths now she has been using an item of mine for display purposes and never asked my permission either. I've never brought this up with her as I dread any confrontation with her so I just let it go.

On the way home that evening she was with a client and barked to me 'bring my item back tomorrow' I answered (a bit irratated) 'I said I would', then she launched a verbal attack on me, got right in my face accusing me of certain things. I felt intimated and frankly quite shocked. I told her she needed to calm down and walked out.

20 mins later she phoned me and launched another verbal attack ending in the 2weeks notice she is giving me. I hardly got a word in edgeways and couldn't get to the bottom of her issue with me. What I find so bizarre is that I hardly ever see her and when she comes for a treatment we talk pleasantly enough so I would have assumed that if she had an issue with me she would have chosen one of these times in which to bring it up.

I am gutted as I have but up a very good client base and enjoy my work but obviously have felt uncomfortable with where I work because of her attitude. Many of my clients sense an atmosphere when they have to pass through her area to get to me and they are aware of what she is like and dislike her a lot.

When I came looking for a room to rent 18months ago I couldn't get her to sign a contract with me and I suspect she doesn't declare my rent. I'm currently 22 weeks pregnant and just want to know if I have any rights at all? If I could get 6 weeks then that would be better as I could start maternity leave then therefore I would have some income and be able to search for another premises whilst being on leave.

I can't believe that as a mother herself she would do this to me, and what is so shocking is that I still have no idea what her issue is! Please help!

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Earlybird · 11/08/2013 20:19

How long did you have her 'item' before she asked for it back?

How much longer were you intending to work before the baby arrives
how long are you intending to take off with the new baby
what were you intending to do with your space while you're off on maternity leave? (meaning would you have continued to pay rent while not working?)

ricecakesrule · 11/08/2013 20:27

Not going to be any employment issues as it's clearly not an employment relationship, only question really is whether you can buy time by saying there's an implied tenancy - do you pay direct debit / standing order so able to trace rental payments? If you pay monthly in advance and you have already paid a month, you could poss argue that she had to give you the full month notice? You're a bit stuck without a tenancy agreement I think, sorry. She's being a complete cow but don't think she's doing anything illegal.

Do you think it would be worth contacting the top landlord person to see if they can do anything / or if they don't know about her sub-letting and therefore she gets into trouble!

TheBreastmilksOnMe · 11/08/2013 20:33

I'd had the item for a couple of weeks, whilst she was off on maternity leave. it's a nondescript item that she's never used in all the time I've been there she just happened to need it that particular day. My bad for not bringing it back straight away. I've never borrowed anything from her before.

I was intending to work right up until my due date (Dec) and take 4mths off which happened to coincide with my quietest period, fortunately.

Yes I would have continued to pay rent whilst off on maternity leave.

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TheBreastmilksOnMe · 11/08/2013 20:38

I pay weekly, and top landlord is aware and ok with arrangement. She has also been in for a treatment so I know for sure she's ok with it.

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flowery · 12/08/2013 07:04

I would suggest you repost in Legal as you're unlikely to find anyone in Employment who knows about law relating to tenancy and whether 2 weeks' notice to leave is ok.

I would also suggest you omit most of what you've put as most of it is not relevant. As far as I can tell, in terms of what rights you might have, the only stuff that's relevant is you sublet without an agreement, have fallen out and she's given you notice, but you'd like to stay a few weeks longer.

MissMarplesBloomers · 12/08/2013 07:11

If you can bear the atmosphere stick it out until Dec & go then. If she tries to get you evicted it'll take longer than that & without a formal contract would be on a sticky wicket I would think.

TheBreastmilksOnMe · 12/08/2013 21:24

Thanks for your advice guys I went to citizens advice today and they basically said I don't have much in the way of rights but my best bet is to try and negotiate another 6 weeks, if she doesn't agree then there isn't much she can do about it apart from the legal route which is what you've just said MissMarples so although I'd like to stay longer than 6 weeks I wouldn't be comfortable there so I'm just going to have to work up the courage to face her again and state my terms so to speak. Can anyone help me with what I should say and how please bearing in mind she is aggressive and unreasonable?

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