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Redundancy while off sick

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KatieMcFlightly · 05/09/2012 21:03

I've been off sick with work related stress for 6 months and have had a letter telling me that there are going to be redundancies at work. There are 20 of us and the council are cutting us down to 14. We have all got to apply for our jobs and 14 of us will be appointed. I've been given a skills matching form to fill in. I'm off sick, can they make me redundant? What happens if I'm not well enough to go back to work if I'm appointed? Can I stay off sick? Thanks

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twittertotter · 06/09/2012 09:15

I cannot believe the OPs sense of entitlement - I work in HR in the private sector and her poor attitude would be strongly weighted in our redundancy criteria to ensure she stopped taking the mick.

If you can't cope with your job get a new one and if you really are a teacher imparting knowledge to a future generation I am flabbergasted that this was too stressful for yet you were able to complete studies for your own betterment. Really rather selfish.

I have 2 people off with long term stress in my business now and we are doing everything we can to support a return to work but they are showing a clear desire to make it work- you op are not.

In answer to you question though yes you can be made redundant and if you were in
my business you would be top of the list to go.

Selks · 06/09/2012 12:01

The OP does not say that she is a teacher, just that she works in public services.
But her attitude still stinks of blatantly exploiting the situation.

flowery · 06/09/2012 12:08

I would be surprised if the OP hasnt been told what criteria will be used to select people, if she's had to fill in a skills match form and has been told everyone will have to apply for their jobs.

OP if you genuinely haven't been told whether attendance will be used as a criteria, then get your union rep to ask. In answer to your question about can you stay off sick if you get appointed to one of the roles, then yes you can.

I agree with others that redundancy or no redundancy, you would have been dismissed for capability by now in many many organisations.

flowery · 06/09/2012 12:08

as a criterion not as a criteria..

MainlyMaynie · 06/09/2012 12:15

If this is real, you need to consider applying for voluntary redundancy. You have been off six months, so will be about to move down to half-pay. You will only get six-months on half-pay. Your employer will be moving to dismiss you on health grounds during this time. I would be very surprised if they haven't already considered this. I would also be surprised if there wasn't a weighting for sickness absence on the redundancy procedure. Having more experience and qualifications is not guaranteed to gain you the most points. There may well also be a weighting for performance appraisals. Given your attitude towards your boss and your job, it is fairly likely they will attempt to use redundancy to get rid of you.

What are your current plans for returning to work?

Whitershadeofpale · 06/09/2012 12:26

If the points are awarded for:

Conniving
Laziness
Excuse making
Skiving ability
Entitlement
and ego

then I'm sure you will have the most points and keep your job, if not I'd pray for a miraculous recovery and start job hunting. Or seek out a solicitor specialising in unfair dipmissial as I'm sure this is what you'll argue

GColdtimer · 06/09/2012 13:36

From another thread which is know is bad form but couldn't help myself:
"why is he so late home. I teach secondary adn have a 20 minute drive plus 2 kids to pick up and I'm home for 4 "

So she is a teacher (and fwiw I don't know any teacher who is home before 5).

Floggingmolly · 06/09/2012 13:56

I really hope my kids never have a teacher even marginally as crap as you sound, op

EdithWeston · 06/09/2012 13:59

From this thread - she's in UNISON, so may be a teaching assistant (as teachers are normally in the various teachers' unions).

Rangirl · 18/09/2012 13:28

Could only happen in the public sector Sorry if that sounds harsh.
And I know it's only a minority etc but still OP wouldn't last 5 mins in the private sectir

Rangirl · 18/09/2012 13:29

Sector ( pest I phone)

shap123 · 20/09/2014 15:15

can i be made redundant when sick even if i have a excellent work record until now.this is my 1st time i have been off sick for more than a day or 2 in my life, I have been off now for about 8 weeks and could be off for a couple more at most. I have been asked to attend a meeting as the company has resurrected since i have been off work.

Wecandoit · 17/06/2015 15:15

Mums net. I've heard good things about mums net and accidently stumbled across this very old blog.
Poor Katie, bullied at work and when she looks desperately for support, she gets bullied on mums net. Shame on you.
Did you not recognise the pain in her messages.
I joined especially to tell you this.

Grewupinafield · 17/06/2015 16:00

You joined mumsnet to specifically comment on this one thread? That is almost 3 years old??

Salene · 17/06/2015 17:12

If you can't return to your job because it stresses you out. Why don't you go and find another job else where. Being on long term sick is not fair to the company or other employees.

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