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First and final warning?

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mumofjust1 · 21/08/2012 13:57

Anyone have any experience of this?

Been given a letter following my first disciplinary, stating that the outcome is a first and final warning.

Can they do this?

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bureni · 21/08/2012 14:00

depends how long you have been in employment, if under 2 years its pretty normal.

mumofjust1 · 21/08/2012 14:08

Nope, it will be 4 years in September

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laracroft2001 · 21/08/2012 14:09

What was it for? I believe it depends on severity of the incident

BonnieBumble · 21/08/2012 14:10

Has Lara said it depends on severity.

What was the warning given for?

BonnieBumble · 21/08/2012 14:10

As not has!

mumofjust1 · 21/08/2012 14:23

The letter states:

"absence levels had reached a sufficiently high point to trigger a disciplinary interview under the company policy"

And

"work performance is erratic and levels unacceptable"

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laracroft2001 · 21/08/2012 14:25

How long has it been going on- and has there been any other performance management I.e counselling sessions, informal meets etc?

PissyDust · 21/08/2012 14:25

Have they told you what targets you need to meet to raise your work performance and what has your sickness record for the last 12 months been like?

BonnieBumble · 21/08/2012 14:33

Difficult to advise without knowing the full information however for unacceptable levels of absence and poor performance it would be unusual to start off with a final written warning.

I issued someone with a final written warning a few weeks ago, she previously had a clean disciplinary record. The employee in question had behaved very unprofessionally in front of a client and badmouthed the Company. A final warning was appropriate in these circumstances.

Do you accept the allegations made against you? What was your defence?

You can always appeal against the severity of the sanction imposed.

flowery · 21/08/2012 19:48

How long you've been there makes no difference to anything.

If the offence is sufficiently serious, then 'jumping' a warning level is usually reasonable. But that would usually be for one serious incident. Absence levels/performance levels it wouldn't normally be reasonable to jump a level as absence and performance levels don't suddenly reach a very serious level, and it would be strange for there not to have been time to do first and second warnings, to give a chance to improve.

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