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Self-employment issues

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HelenPapa · 07/08/2012 18:03

Does anyone knows how self employment works or if I can be self employed easily? I mean i'm going to work for a family as mother's help and my employer said that she prefers for me to be self employed. will that be ok or HMRC is going to tell me, no you can't be...?

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Nigglenaggle · 07/08/2012 20:47

I strongly recommend getting a good accountant, they make the whole process much easier and will explain everything! Very good if like me you are not good with figures and dont understand finance! I browsed a list of chartered accountants on the web (if theyre not chartered they could be anyone) then rang round a few to enquire re prices and chose the one I liked the sound of best. It neednt cost the earth - mine cost £100 a year ish and was worth every penny

flowery · 07/08/2012 22:31

As in your previous thread, in the role you've been offered you wouldn't be self employed. It's not something you or the employer get to decide. HMRC and an Employment Tribunal would look at the nature of what you are doing and the relationship with your employer to decide whether you are genuinely self employed and based on the information you've given elsewhere, they would not class you as being self employed. If you ring HMRC they will tell you the same. Don't let your employer try and wriggle out of their responsibilities and deny you your employment rights.

HelenPapa · 08/08/2012 14:19

I talk to my employer and she said that her mother works as a carer for older people and she is self employed. She said also that i wasn't informed correctly and that if i'm open about what i'm getting, and so on, that there's no problem with taxes, etc.
I don't know what to do. this is a very good opportunity for me, but if i'm going to get in trouble, i'd rather find something else...

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Lizcat · 08/08/2012 14:30

Her mum maybe working for several different elderly people and able to organise her appointments with them to suit herself these are crucial differences.
I have to say however good an oppurtunity this feel s for you this lady's insistence that you can be self-em

Lizcat · 08/08/2012 14:31

Sorry posted to soon
Her insistence that you can be self employed when HR professionals are saying you can't be would be ringing alarm bells with me. I say this as a self employed person who em

Lizcat · 08/08/2012 14:32

Sorry did it again
Who employs other people and if you were working in this way for me my interpretation of HMRC guidelines would be that you have to be an employee.

HelenPapa · 08/08/2012 15:20

I just got an appointment with mothercare for an assesment event (interview). Now i'm more confused. should i tell her no but if mothercare doesn't recruite me afterall. If i say yes to her and then mothercares recruits me? it's complicated because i need a job and the first one is a sure one (with problems) and the other one is not a sure one (but obviously with no such problems as the first one)!!

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flowery · 08/08/2012 17:33

I know its easy for me to say but you really shouldn't take the job. You are entitled to have tax and NI deducted and paid on your behalf, to paid holiday and other paid leave and protection from being dismissed once you've been there a while. She is trying to get out of all that, and is therefore not a responsible considerate employer. Translate that to how she will treat you generally and it's really not a situation you want to put yourself in.

HelenPapa · 09/08/2012 12:17

Thanx to all for all the advice. I decided to tell her that i won't take the job and hope to find something else soon...

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