Nursery fees...sickness and holidays?
notlob · 01/11/2003 17:15
Around here you pay nursery fees 50 weeks a year, regardless.
A friend only had to pay for the sessions attended but her nursery has decided to charge for illness absences.
What about yours...
Do you pay nursery fees when your children are off sick?
do you pay when you are on holiday?
What do you pay for full-time?
Mo2 · 01/11/2003 17:48
Pay for 51 weeks a year, and Oh yes, pay for off sick/ holidays - everything unless it is 'officially reduced time' (e.g when i was on maternity leave I reduced DS1's days to 3 a week).
Pay c. £1450 month for two of them (4 & 1)
Shocking, when I see it in print like that.
I'm in the SE.
Ghosty · 01/11/2003 18:50
The nursery that DS went to (in the SE too) charged for 49 weeks a year (divided into 12 monthly payments) ... They closed for a week at Christmas and for 2 weeks in the summer (usually last week in July and first week in August) and that is when all the staff had to have their holidays.
If you had a holiday at a different time then you still had to pay ...
And, yes, if your child was absent with illness you still paid.
I think I paid 450 pounds a month for 3 days a week.
fisil · 01/11/2003 20:14
At first I was annoyed to have to pay holidays etc. But now in reality it's actually quite good.
This week (half term) ds was in most days, giving me a chance to get on with things. He was off sick Thursday, but Friday we got up slowly, and as I was sick, he went it, but later than usual. If we'd had to give a firm commitment it would have made it a stressful decision.
I agree it's expensive (London!), but we budgeted for a full year when chosing our childcare, so any money back for sickness would be extra money, rather than losing it (iyswim). It's like the mortgage/rent - you still pay for that when you're on holiday!
notlob · 01/11/2003 20:17
Wait until I tell her what you have all said.
She pays £108 a week (full time) , she works term time only, so has quite alot of holiday and if her dd doesn't go to nursery in the hols she doesn't pay. she thinks she has it bad that she now has to pay if dd is ill!
lucy123 · 01/11/2003 20:19
Eeek! I was annoyed about having to pay every month regardless (and having to pay for 5 days when I wanted 3). This is in Spain.
Now, having seen the cost of UK nurseries I realise I have it good. I guess paying for sick days is fair enough as they have to get the staff in anyway. Holidays at those prices is not right.
bluebear · 02/11/2003 13:32
Ds's nursery is open 52 weeks a year, closed bank holidays, and charges for sick days/holidays, but not bank holidays (only nursery in this area that doesn't charge for bank holidays).
Ds is part-time but full-time fees are £855 a month for under 2's and £682 a month for over 2's. It's the cheapest nursery in our area (W.London). Food is supplied but we supply our own nappies.
janinlondon · 03/11/2003 13:31
Our nursery (SW2 in London) is open 48 weeks a year but we pay for the weeks they are closed just the same as the rest of the year. For an under 3 its £ 1080 full time per month. They are open 8am to 5:30pm. The other five nurseries I looked at nearby (when the fees were looking bad) all charged about the same or more. And yes, you pay for days your child is sick.
sharry · 03/11/2003 13:49
I can understand your friends annoyance. My own dds nursery has just changed their sicknss absenssce policy. While I can understand the manaagement principles of why etc, I have neither abused this system nor been dissatisfied with their child care, infact have put dd into nursery in school holidays!When dd began signed contract to specify that we wouldn't be paying. Can nurserys implement new policy when and if they see fit without any parental views or opinions.I pay £440 per month for 1 full time place 8-6 (but always pick up early 4pm)
SueW · 03/11/2003 14:08
I know it's different but it is similar...
DD goes to a private school. We pay fees in ten, monthly payments. If a child has to be signed off sick for more than five days during term-time you are able to reclaim the cost of the fees through an (optional) insurance policy which costs a tiny proportion of the fees.
When DD was at nursery, it operated 52 weeks a year but was closed on Bank Hols. We were allowed to take two weeks off per year, for which we would not have to pay fees, as long as they were advised min four weeks beforehand IIRC.
Sick days, etc - you still had to pay for and as aloha says - they still have their overheads.
Anyway, I'm surprised someone hasn't cottoned on to insurance for nursery fees....
Helsbels · 03/11/2003 14:13
Mine charges for 52 weeks and refunds for Chrisrmas day/boxing day and NY day if they fall on the days DS is there. I pay extra (£27 per day) for any additional days to the 3 he does every week and that costs about £330 on the 15th of each month. They charge for all sick unless long term and all holidays
miranda2 · 03/11/2003 15:34
My ds's nursery charge for 50 weeks regardless of whether you are there or not (they are closed for the week Xmas to new year, and bank holidays, hence 50 not 52). He is now in the 'over 2' band and it is £33.50 a day or £151 a full week. I've just taken him out on Fridays to save myself the £17 for the extra day I don't need - was having it on the basis that it was quite cheap, but decided I couldn't really afford it and anyway now he's a fun age to do things with (just started gymtots!). SOOO expensive! Its about 9k for a fulltime place for a baby. What if I get pregnant with twins, I keep asking myself... I think it would actually be cheaper to get a nanny in that case...
CnR · 03/11/2003 21:40
DD's nursery is open 51 weeks a year (closes over Christmas for 1 week) and we pay for all of that time, but get an extra 1 week's holiday a year (pro rata of how many days you go - DD attends 2 days a wek so she gets 2 days holiday). We do pay for any other time she isn't there due to sickness or extra holidays. For us it works out that we do pay a lot for ewhen she isn't there. I am a teacher and in the holidays it averages that DD generally only goes once a week at the most.
Bozza · 04/11/2003 10:59
Our nursery is closed for Bank Hols and one week at Christmas. We are not charged for this. The months are averaged out so for 3 days as £26 a day we are charged £325 a month. We are allowed to take 3 weeks (ie 9 days in our case) holiday and give notice and we will be charged half rate for these weeks. In practice, of course, DH and I both have more holidays than this and so he gets taken out more often. Also all sick days etc are paid for. Going by this thread this actually seems like quite a reasonable deal.
No change in price according to age though, although they stop providing breakfast for over 2s.
Azure · 04/11/2003 11:34
DS's nursery is closed on bank holidays only. Equal monthly payments are made throughout the year and there is no concession for illness. I assume that's the same for holidays, but I've never thought of checking - hmm, I will do now. We pay an incredible £1,200 pm full-time, in London.
Tissy · 04/11/2003 11:45
We pay on a weekly basis, but are allowed 2 "free" weeks for holidays as long as they have notice so they can adjust staffing if necessary. Any sick days are charged at 50%, as are other days off with notice. Days off without notice are charged at full rate.We are not charged for days the nursery is shut, so the week of Christmas this year we would only be charged for 3 days.
Rates for dd (21 months)are £120 per week full time
udar · 04/11/2003 16:13
Azure, haven't had baby yet but looking at a London nursery full time at about £1050 but they close for 4 weeks a year which you pay for as well as bank holidays. I realise this is excessive isn't it but you don't have any choice, there isn't anything around for much less. Do you feel you get your money's worth for £1200?
GillW · 05/11/2003 08:49
For full time we pay a flat £510 a month all year round (breakfast, lunch and tea included), regardless of holidays, sickness and nursery closing on public holidays and between Christmas and New Year. For a second full-time place we'd get a 10% discount. That's actually starting to sound quite reasonable compared to what most of you are paying.
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