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Female colleague making endless remarks about my “tits” - what can I do?

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corygal · 04/11/2011 11:50

I?m in a senior role at work, albeit not the most senior in my dept. Opposite number in other dept is getting tricky ? Ms Charmschool, one of those upright-downright-forthright types who is proud to ?tell it like it is? at every opportunity. She?s 10 years younger than me and has just been promoted to my level.

Three guesses what the problem is ? she?s so acid I dread going in. Before I?ve even sat down, I get looked over and my appearance criticised. Did you know tights could be too ?hairy??

Selection of this week? s samples:

On deadline with a vital report, I came in early to do my share of a team job then shot back to my desk to check and email it. Later, as I was head-down proofing semi-outloud because the others were doing theirs around the office loudly, Charmschool honked: ?Are you just going to sitting there all afternoon talking to yourself??

At a compulsory office do later, in front of several male staff she made three remarks about ?don?t hold your drink so close to your tits? so that everyone looked ? and started talking about them. Then she did it again. And again. Whenever anyone came in. It led to a really foul remark by another colleague ?the department junior found asleep dribbling on your tits?.

I removed myself and my body parts and have since spoken to her only on office business. Life is miles better ? but do I tell the management? Charmschool, hilariously, has left two jobs because she was ?victimised? by colleagues.

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gamerwidow · 04/11/2011 12:28

She sounds thoroughly unpleasant and is obviously very insecure otherwise she wouldn't feel the need to belittle you.
It's always hard when someone at work behaves inappropriately because you can't always just tell them to fuck off because you need to maintain some kind of relationship.
If the behaviour has stopped I would leave it for now but if she starts again I would ask her if she realises how rude she is being. If she knows and doesn't care then you should tell her that you will be escalating the issue to HR.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 04/11/2011 12:29

E-mail her, tell her that the next batch of comments like that will win her a grievance made to your HR department.

aquashiv · 04/11/2011 12:29

Evil Colleague - Your tights are too hairy
You - Yeah well, so's your face
I am hoping someone says this to me soon just so I can use this line.

ohanotherone · 04/11/2011 12:31

I think you should talk to your manager and say that you are finding your colleague difficult to cope with because of her personal remarks and ask your manager what they think you should do about it. If you don't want to do that and feel that you have to fight it out on your own I think you should bear in mind that she sees you as competition so it is in her interests for you to get annoyed or pissed off etc...then she can play the victim.

I would probably give her some shit back really...

"At least I've got tits..." ............................. raised eyebrows
"Nothing wrong with hairy tights.." .................................smile
"I'm getting on with my work actually..".................................hard stare

keep calm and professional but make sure you do not take any shit.

ujjayi · 04/11/2011 12:32

I agree with Lindax that you should go and speak with her today about these comments and incidents that have occurred this week. She sounds a real cow and I would just want to distance myself too but in the long term that isn't going to help - because you just know she will be coming back for more.

Tackle her head on. Say she was offensive and unprofessional and that if it happens again you will be reporting her to HR.

manicbmc · 04/11/2011 12:33

I'd be tempted to log it with HR anyway. Even if you say you don't want anything done about it. That way, if anyone else has to have words with HR about her, or she continues to do it (after you have asked her not to obviously), then it is all on record.

If she's left 2 jobs because she says she was victimised then she's likely to play that card again.

TheRealMrsHannigan · 04/11/2011 12:34

I work in HR and can advise this: do NOT retaliate with any equally personal or rude comments, it will escalate the matter and not work in your favour. DO keep a record of any bitchy emails or particular occasions where she has been unprofessional and rude.
DO call her on it in front of as many other colleagues as you can without it being a full blown splat, keep it calm and professionial i.e: " XXX that is a really rude and degrading comment, this isnt the first time you have acted in this manner, please stop".

If she continues, go straight to your HR team and report her behaviour. Thry will be obliged to investigate, if she is deemed 'guilty' she will face disciplinary action, hopefully that will be the shock she needs to reign her gob in. Bullying and harrassment in the work place is taken very seriously these days and it sounds like she is singling you out particularly.

HecateGoddessOfTheNight · 04/11/2011 12:34

"Why are you so interested in my breasts? You keep talking about them. Is there something you would like me to know?"

or "You seem very interested in my breasts. Are you coming onto me?"

or "Commenting on my breasts could be seen as sexual harrassment, you know."

And as others suggest, "Gosh, that sounded very rude, was that your intention?"

HecateGoddessOfTheNight · 04/11/2011 12:35

actually, forget that. Say what mrsH says!

MillyR · 04/11/2011 12:37

I wouldn't make most of the comments suggested on this thread. Even Hecate's quite mild ones leave you open to a complaint being made about homophobic bullying if you joke that she is coming on to you. The fact that this woman claims to have been victimised twice before means you have to be very careful not to have a complaint made about you.

I think that speaking to somebody in a senior position about what you should do is sensible advice.

MillyR · 04/11/2011 12:38

Sorry, X post with everybody!

Proudnscary · 04/11/2011 12:39

Ignore all the silly advice about juvenile revenge tactics on here.

I absolutely love, as ever, 'Did you intend that to sound so rude?'. It's practically unbeatable.

I'd also challenge here every time, without being emotional or aggressive. Even semi jokingly - but firmly.

So:

Twat girl: Tit remark

You: That's enough of that thanking you

Twat girl: Another tit remark

You: THANK YOU (loudly in a 'shut up' overriding way, turn and talk to someone else)

Proudnscary · 04/11/2011 12:39

Challenge her not here

manicbmc · 04/11/2011 12:40

I do like 'off you fuck, there's a dear' but it'd probably not be the thing to say Grin

Splinters · 04/11/2011 12:44

Also love "did you intend...?"

and my own favourite, which I always keep on the tip of my tongue for emergencies: "I beg your pardon?"

MardyBra · 04/11/2011 12:45

Just out of interest, ARE your tights hairy?

MardyBra · 04/11/2011 12:46

Agree with all those who suggest asking her to keep her comments professional btw. Good luck OP.

KatieMiddIeton · 04/11/2011 12:51

Just tell her she is rude. A simple, "Do you mind?" often works wonders or in extremis "Excuse me but do you need to be quite so rude/offensive/unprofessional".

Unless you pull her up on it she'll keep doing it and think it's ok.

SixStringWidow · 04/11/2011 12:54

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OldMacEIEIO · 04/11/2011 13:56

MardyBra

I think that was the problem. She wasnt wearing any

MardyBra · 04/11/2011 14:40

[dim witted emoticon]

corygal · 04/11/2011 15:51

I was wearing tights! They were the Primark super-warm ones (may I tell you they are very comforting.) But the cat had brushed against me as I left the house, and...

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SixStringWidow · 04/11/2011 15:53

yeah yeah, that old chestnut Grin

GrendelsMum · 06/11/2011 19:23

No, you really must go with what The Real Mrs H says. Don't start telling her to fuck off or retaliating on her childish level. To me, she actually sounds a very weak person, who has real difficulty in responding appropriately to people in either a social or a business context.

If feel you have difficulty acting with authority in that type of situation, you might try imagining that you are playing the role of someone who deals effortlessly with unpleasant people. Many years ago, in a first teaching role, I spent a lot of time mentally being Emma Thompson in 'Much Ado About Nothing', marching around the gardens and taking no shit from anybody. Worked a charm Wink.

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