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speedymama · 10/12/2005 10:34

Since going back to work a year ago part-time, I have deliberately not spoken too openly about my DTS for fear of being viewed as mumsy, dull or as someone who has nothing else to talk about. However, I do believe now that is wrong stance to take.
I work for a R&D organisation and my group comprises mainly engineers who happen to be mainly men. Where I sit, I'm the only female amongst 7 men and do you know what they mainly talk about? Football! Now, why is it seen as acceptable that a topic like football is OK to discuss but why do I get the impression that if you want to say something about what your child did, then you are viewed as mumsy or have nothing else to talk about. One of the older guys last week, was telling me about his 15 year old who is doing well at school and he was justifiably proud of her. So I told him something about what the twins had done and he was genuinely interested. I must admit that he and one other are the only ones who are married so maybe that has something to do with it.

I do talk to them about other things but I am reluctant to say too much about my children. I do pin up all their artwork around my work area but nobody has really commented on it. Interestingly, when fellow women engineers/scientisit walk by, they do comment on the colourful display so maybe women and men are wired differently to such things.

It is not always justified to label someone has dull because others perceives that all they talk about is their family. Usually people talk about what they have in common and then as they get to know each other, they move on to different topics, like football etc. I just wish that I did not feel this unseen pressure to downplay the two joys in my life because they are an important part of me. However, just because I talk about them does not mean I have nothing else to say! I think lazy journalist are guilty of perpetuating this myth (Lowri Turner). I run and work out in the gym, I was a DJ at university, I'm learning German and Spanish, I have a brown belt in Kung Fu, I can make my own clothes, I have acted on stage (amateur),I knit and crochet, I read a wide variety of books, I follow Birmingham City and I love Star Trek. I just happen to believe that my babies are more important than all of that!

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tribpot · 10/12/2005 12:20

I've just gone back to work, speedymama, mostly blokey environment although there are a few women too. However, notably, very few people have kids, therefore are not very interested to hear about my baby's adventures in night feeding, etc. They will sort of ask politely (things like "what is he called?"!) but I guess, much as I did before I had ds, they don't really know what to ask anyway. My boss does have kids and he will happily chat away about them.

Blokes would always rather talk about football because it avoids the possibility of saying anything meaningful by mistake

I tend not to say that much to my colleagues anyway because I'm used to working away on site in the depths of Sweden. There the team basically had to be your entire (weekday) social life as well, so if you spent too much time chatting in the office there was nothing left to talk about over dinner!

If I were you, I would just start talking about your dts more, and see how people react. Bearing in mind that children are not very fascinating to people who don't have them (men and women alike, if my friends are anything to go by) but it's not unreasonable to expect your co-workers to take an interest in what you have to say, given you offer them the same courtesy in return.

ThePrisoner · 10/12/2005 15:13

People who don't have children, or maybe don't even have any contact with children, will be completely oblivious as to how parents feel about their offspring. They will have no concept of child-induced sleepless nights or the proud moment of watching your baby learn to walk!

There is probably a worse subject mums could talk about - steer the conversation towards discussing your "giving birth story" - now that will really get them going ...

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