HR person - boring q about travelling time allowence. ta muchio

[Tortington]

hope someone answers.

recently i have recently been travelling by train to get to the outer reaches of ...err... london sometime i can be on a train or a bus for 5 hours of the day.

now my sensibly thinking says that anything over my usual travelling time should be taken in the working day - watcha think?

so usually to my designated office it would take me 40 mins = 80 mins a day.

so if i get on a train at 6.30 am and get back at say 4.00pm thats a working say -including travelling time of 8.5 hours minus the compulsery 30 min dinner thats 8 hours minus my 80 min usual travelling time = 6.40 - this means i end up owing them bstards 50 mins.

anyway does this sound right?

its a long long day!

Custardo - when I travelled it was always on a quid-pro-quo arrangment. So if I left on a Sunday afternoon I would have the Friday afternoon of as an exchange. Or if the client site was 50 miles away I would have a day off at the end of the engagement.

I have never known anybody, except Council joiners employed, pre 1800(who still get paid to pee too) have a contractual right to travelling time.

Can you arrange some TOIL with your manager?

What does your contract say????

The hours you quote from 6.30am to 4pm is 9.5 hours less 1.5 hours usual travel, equals 8 hours less .5 lunch = 7.5 hours which sounds like a normal working day to me

so are you saying that anything before 9am or after 5.30 i should take toil?

on the situation below that would mean i get 2.5 hours am but owe them 1.5 at the end of the day so end up an hour better off

bum added it up wrong - yes 7.5 is a normal working day

my contract says 35 hours a week. doesn't specify when. and out of hours is expected with kind of work i do.

what i am actually asking is - so claiming the travelling as part of the day is ok? if its not to my usual place of work

I would think you have a reasonable case Custardo if it happens frequently AND there is no enhanced package in place to cover this hassle.

For example my DH travels loads, frequently catching the red eye which involves a 4.30am departure from home. But he is paid well and so is viewed as compensated for this. But then he can also arrange his diary and have a Friday PM of for example.

Basically work it out with your boss- sy Oi mate Ihave spent 10 hours on a bus this week before/after work so can I have three weeks on Tuesday off to clean my house?

Custy - yes, I think it would be unreasonable of an employer not to let you take at least some travelling time as part of the working day, unless it is expressly written into your contract what reasonable travel to normal places of work might be.

In my line of work, 1.5 hours a day is viewed as being 'normal' and can't be taken out of the working day, anything above that can be!

Under the Working Time Directive, working time does not include routine travel between home and work. This is not routine, therefore it is working time.

See
DTI website

can i just say a big thanks for taking otu the time to answer this complete pile of boring bollocks. very handy, very useful - confirmed what i thought thank you