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not sure if DP can get paternity or annual level

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iskra · 25/03/2011 11:16

DP is starting a new job at the beginning of August, & we are expecting a baby in mid-Sept. So, I guess he will have been in post for around 6 weeks (8 weeks if you count the compulsory 2 weeks of shadowing in July, but those are unpaid).

So, I understand he's not eligible for paternity leave, but will he be able to take any annual leave? Does that acrue over times of service?

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iskra · 25/03/2011 11:17

annual level! Annual leave Blush

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flowery · 25/03/2011 11:51

He will start accruing annual leave immediately but whether his employer will allow him to take any when the baby is due is entirely up to them. He will only have accrued a very small amount and many employers don't allow new staff to take more holiday than they've accrued, so that could be a problem. Also even if in principle they don't have a problem with taking holiday in advance of it being accrued, that doesn't mean they'll agree his request to take it at that time.

So in short, it's entirely up to his employer but you would hope most employers would be sympathetic and allow him to take some annual leave or at least unpaid leave.

prh47bridge · 25/03/2011 11:52

Up to his employer. Some insist you earn your holiday before you take it. Most will allow you to take it whenever you want, so he can take all his entitlement in one go. He should talk to his employer as soon as possible, both so that he understands the rules and so that they know he will be taking a holiday soon after joining.

What is the two weeks unpaid about? How does that work?

prh47bridge · 25/03/2011 11:53

Sorry, first word of third sentence should be "Many", not "Most".

RibenaBerry · 25/03/2011 12:19

So he hasn't started the new job yet?

The advice above is correct, so I would handle this by suggesting that your DH talks to them before he joins. With six months' notice of the issue, many employers will be able to agree something with him, and will understand why he wasn't able to mention it at an earlier stage (given how far along I assume you are). IME, many employers in this situation will let him take 'paternity leave', but unpaid (if you can afford that) even though he doesn't legally qualify, or let him use holiday even though he hasn't accrued it.

Bearcat · 25/03/2011 13:38

I'm a bit taken aback that your husband has to do compulsory shadowing for 2 weeks and not get paid for it!
How flipping mean to a family.

mollymole · 25/03/2011 13:56

if he worked for us we would let him have some annual leave and if he left before he had worked it off by accrual then we would just dock what he owed us back from his final wage - but we would hope he would inform us of his intentions as soon as he started or even before so that we could make plans

alarkaspree · 25/03/2011 14:02

I think most employers would allow him some leave, but I agree it's a good idea to discuss it with them now. That said, I agree with Bearcat. The unpaid compulsory shadowing suggests that they're not going to be the most thoughtful of employers.

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iskra · 25/03/2011 15:22

Weeeeelll, would you be surprised if I told you he was working for the NHS?! He's starting a (most) junior doctor - I suppose the 2 weeks shadowing works on the assumption that everyone is a 24 year old without a family - & since you haven't been earning for years as a student anyway what does it matter...

Hopefully they will be flexible about the leave. He's contracted to work for them for 2 years so they will get their time out of him.

Thanks for the guidance, everyone. I've only ever temped so not sure on the rules, & he's not been working for the past 4 years!

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twinklytoes · 25/03/2011 21:47

does he have any other nhs service? continuous service might give him enough to apply for pat leave.

we'd give annual leave. check the website for the trust - you should be able to access their employment policies and find out how they offer annual leave, also look for a policy on special leave - in worst case scenario and nothing else been given would allow him emergency carers leave once you are in labour.

ginmakesitallok · 26/03/2011 07:51

I work for NHS and we'd give annual leave.

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