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DH job hunting - third time he's got to final round and then told No

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ksld · 20/07/2010 14:20

DH has been job hunting for months now. He hates his current job which has not turned out as he expected/as was represented to him. His confidence has been knocked very much by having to take on a difficult team and lots of problems within the systems, and being constantly berated for not having it all sorted. He is making mistakes he knows he shouldn't be because so busy covering the work of other team members. It has become an impossible place for him to continue to work.

However he has just had a knock back for the third time for a new job. Again a job he really liked, company he liked. This is the third time they have said they liked him, he felt the interviews went well, the feedback is no criticism for him at all, that he was a good fit for the company etc. But that the company have decided to not employ anyone and will be re-jigging the role and re-advertising as a different role.

DH is so depressed and down he has had to go in to a meeting in current role fighting back tears. He is worried current company are going to start proceedings to get rid of hm, and doesn't know what he is doing wrong to not get a job...(The knock backs are the jobs he has got interviews for, has applied for many more jobs).

I just don't know how to help him - have been a SAHM for 6 years now, and am not trained as anything so can't earn enough myself to pay mortgage, and we have young children at home with no family help for childcare. I just don't know what else to suggest or how I can make this better. I have a sick feeling all the time now and am starting to get anxiety attacks about it all. Can't tell DH how much it's affecting me as that will make it worse for him. What can we do?

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Rycie · 20/07/2010 18:34

Hi ksld,

I couldn't leave this unanswered as honestly I could have written this post myself. In fact, as I was reading it thought that if my DH had read it, he would have assumed it had been written about him!

Firstly, my huge sympathies and support. It is so so hard to see someone you love and admire being a) treated badly and b) starting to doubt himself because of it.

In our situation, DH had the job yours has now, he thought it would be his 10 year plan, but from almost the beginning it became apparent that he had been dealt a marked card and it was a very critical, toxic environment. He used to feel sick every morning facing the prospect of work, and it become the dominant factor in our life, completely overriding the birth of our first child. He honestly looked grey most of the time. He was convinced they wanted to get rid of him, I kept saying he was being paranoid, but it turned out he was right.

They made him redundant in Jan (which was an excuse, they just didn't have grounds to fire him). And to top it off, they did it the day before my father's funeral, which they knew about. Bastards, honestly. He has then been through four months of no work, but recently has gotten a short term contract for a good company, but the role is very junior and salary far below that of what he was previously earning. In the meantime, he has been interviewing for roles, but EXACTLY the same thing has happened - he is on the final short list, and then they rethink the position entirely.

Sorry to give so much detail, but I wanted to tell you how well I understand!

It is so difficult to support him in this time, and to be honest I think in general a man's sense of self esteem is so much more tied up with their work than a women's. (I also work). The best advice I can give you is to encourage him to try and view this all as long term as possible.

He will prob have another 20 years or so of working life ahead of him, and this very demoralising period will in the end be a small part of it. He also needs to try (so difficult I know) to focus on the fact that HE is not the problem, they are. The other thing we must remember, which is true for anything in life, is that the only constant is change - by which I mean that as awful as tthe situation you are currently in is, it is temporary. It may take a year or two to resolve, but you will not be stuck with thus for 20 years. Try and just emphasise to him how well it reflects that he is doing so well in interviews, even if it doesn't work out in the end. No doubt 100's applied for the same positions as your DH, and the fact that he has gotten so far is indicative of how skilled, experienced and likable he is. Eventually one of these will materialise. These are very tough times, so the fact that he has applied for lots of positions and not heard back is normal.

If they are going to get rid of him, the best approach IMHO is to be matter of fact about it, "right, thank goodness you won't have to deal with those awful people anymore, but lets talk about what we can do tin preparation." This is where you can really help.

Check out his employment contract thoroughly so that he is able to negotiate the best possible package (if this is an option). Get him to start looking at other jobs besides one's that he's really interested in - I know this is hard, but half a salary is better than no salary, and he must remember that this situation is TEMPORARY.

Also take a close look at your finances and budgets and look for any way to cut costs and implement these, no matter how brutal (no sky TV, reducing meat in meals etc) immediately. You will both feel so much better to be doing something.

Also start looking for ways to make extra cash. There is a very good thread going on at the moment about being "secretly poor" with lots of suggestions, taking in a foreign student, taking in ironing, growing your own veggies, restructuring your debt etc etc. In our case, we rented out our lovely 3 bedroom house and have move into a one bed flat, with dd in the bedroom and have turned the lounge into a bedroom. It seemed an impossible idea at first, but once I realised how much cash it would generate I felt strangely empowered.

You have to go into battle mode, both of you. Being at home will give you the flexibility to do all kinds of things - selling avon for example?

I hope it doesn't sound horrific, but a mindset change is what is saving us. We are not out of the woods, but at least we have mitigated against the financial carnage and have a plan in place.

And finally, I know just what you mean about not burdening him further with your anxiety. But YOU have to talk to someone, you can't bottle this up. Is there anyone in RL you can confide in? And don't underestimate what you can do as SAHM to contribute to your finances.

please do check that other thread for money saving ideas. The worst part of all of this is feeling helpless, if you can both take control of the situation, no matter how hideous it is, you will start to feel better aout it.

Apologies for such a long post, but obviously I wanted to answer you properly.

ksld · 20/07/2010 20:30

Thank you so much for your reply - you've made me cry, but feel better too. It's so nice to have someone understand how crap it all is. I just wrote it all down as it was the only way to have a vent about it - have no-one to confide in in RL.

Am sorry you've been through this, and even worse than us at the moment - you sound very positive despite all the setbacks. I hope this new job works out well for your DH - better to be in work, any work, than at home.

Will have a read of the other thread and see how I can save or make us some money so I feel I am contributing in some way. I have mentioned tonight whether we should think about moving so he could search further afield for a job, but we moved here only 3 years ago so think we have lost money on the house which isn't going to help. And part of me is just scared at the prospect of starting again and moving the DCs from school.

Think there is a child awake upstairs so will leave this for now, but thanks again for replying.

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Rycie · 21/07/2010 10:14

Hi there,

Just a few quick thoughts, if there is no one to talk to in RL, how about your GP? If the anxiety is becoming very hard for you to manage he may be able to give you something short term to help with it.

It doesn't sound as if moving right now is a good idea for you if you're going to lose money, and may be premature. Because at some point your DH will get a new position, and this horrible period will be over. That is certain, the only uncertainty is when it will happen.

In our case we rented out our house as we get a good income for that, and certainly don't want to sell it, and have moved elsewhere in the neighbourhood so that our life routines have remained unchanged. And the plan is to do it for one year only, so at the end of next Feb we will move back home. Its much easier to make a change like this if you can see the end date, and you can do anything for a year, honestly.

I would encourage you to draw up a proper financial plan and see how you can shore yourselves up against any loss of income, you will feel so much better and in control if you have a plan in place to deal with the worst, which in all likelihood won't happen.Even if you can save one month's living expenses then you know you have a buffer, and as your DH is still working you may be able to do this for a while.

Personally, I found it easier to face the worst case scenario head on and accept it and plan for it, rather than just waiting fearfully for it to arrive. I hope this makes sense.

Just keep emphasising to him that he is definitely leaving this god-awful job he has, and he will not be stuck there forever. Ironically, when my DH was made redudant although being scary it was a huge relief that he didn't have to deal with the untenable situation any more.

Hope you got some sleep last night!

Mytholmroyd · 29/07/2010 23:28

ksld - I have just got a new job last week - a great job against a very strong field much better qualified than me. However, just before Christmas I went for an interview and did absolutely awfully - was intimidated and pathetic - two of the panel sat there with their head in their hands and wouldnt even look at me!

Before the successful one, I went to see a friend who is a management recruitment consultant and he spent a couple of hours coaching me on interview technique and how to be "shiny". It helped a great deal, we discussed what was wrong with what I did before, made me think about what I should say and do and how to prepare. Some were simple things but it helped to have someone point them out explicitly. Also, it felt good to have someone on my side.

Perhaps your husband could consider this?

GrendelsMum · 30/07/2010 13:04

I was lent this book by a friend who works in HR, and found it very helpful. It's a good way to remind yourself what your skills are and how to put them across to other people - might be worth seeing if your local library has it for your DH:

www.amazon.com/Brag-Tooting-Your-without-Blowing/dp/B000X1D4IG/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&q id=1280491343&sr=1-3-fkmr0

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